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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Guardian gets their vocabulary right!

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GeordieTerf · 08/01/2020 13:41

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/02/tell-us-about-your-mixed-sex-civil-partnership-plans?CMP=sharebtnn_tw

The Guardian is asking for people to share their plans for mixed-sex partnerships! Yes, mixed-sex! Not gender!

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TheNameGames · 08/01/2020 14:02

Only came 5 years too late or perhaps longer.

I hope they have started to take a look at themselves and shifting their editorial stance because I really used to like that newspaper but it has gone reallly downhill and doubling down on its stance that most of the readers don’t agree with (hence the falling sales). I don’t particularly like the Daily Mail but they don’t shy away from stories. They may edit them at a slant for their readership but I’ve never known them to simply not write an article on something happening in the news like the Guardian does. I’ve always never known them (bar articles on injunctions or ongoing legal matters) to close comments because the comments below the line won’t agree with them. They know what their readers like and it’s only a handful of articles over the years where the consensus of the majority is that they didn’t agree with the journalist/article. By contrast, I’d say half of the Guardian articles that do allow comments contain lots that basically say WTF are you going on about? I’ve seen people on there accuse there being a right wing invasion on the site, upvoting comments that go against the values of the paper but I personally think they have lost their way.

There is an article in there about Ricky Gervais at the Golden Globes. Ricky Gervais gave what most consider an excellent speech, calling out the hypocrisy of Hollywood and shaming tech companies for not paying tax and using child labour, something you would think the Guardian would be applauding. But they have an article trashing him, saying his career could be over and the majority of the comments are along the lines of “were you watching the same thing? It was great”. I can only put it down to them being completely clueless or needing a reason to go after Ricky after his trans comments and thought this would put the boot in and allow comments without having to directly report on it and have closed comments.

I am not a fan of that paper anymore but do hope they sort themselves out or they won’t be around by 2030.

HorseWithNoDice · 08/01/2020 14:05

Yeah, let's wait and see.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 08/01/2020 14:16

Hmmm.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/06/female-fugitives-women-crime-rates-rise

'In some UK cities, the number of female arrests increased by 50% from 2015 to 2016'

Gosh. And might the recording of males as self-declared females by the police have had any impact on that? We shall never know.

HorseWithNoDice · 08/01/2020 14:46

They should've said ..the number of adult human female arrests, I mean that's the same thing, right?

fuckitywhy · 08/01/2020 15:31

I expect they think that sex/gender mean the same thing really.

HorseWithNoDice · 08/01/2020 16:18

You know I've often wondered why if (and I quote) trans women are women then why not trans women are adult human females? Surely they both make as much sense as each other? Yet the adult human male activists get all in a lather at the second one don't they?

Could anyone explain what I'm missing?

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 08/01/2020 16:25

You know I've often wondered why if (and I quote) trans women are women then why not trans women are adult human females? Surely they both make as much sense as each other? Yet the adult human male activists get all in a lather at the second one don't they?

I'm not sure they do. I think some would love to appropriate any recognised way of describing women.

HorseWithNoDice · 08/01/2020 16:28

Then what's all the fuss over the t-shirts etc. about?

HorseWithNoTimeForThis · 08/01/2020 16:33

They are either ok with the dictionary definition or they aren't.

It's been my impression that they're very unhappy about it?

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 09/01/2020 03:11

IME they’re unhappy about natal women claiming it. As always it’s women’s behaviour that’s wrong, not the thing itself.

theunknownknown · 09/01/2020 07:54

I wouldn’t be that optimistic about the Guardian’s language here. The new legislation is known as opposite sex CP. Just like it still says sex on birth and death certificates. For now.

DickKerrLadies · 09/01/2020 07:56

Logic and consistency aren't words I tend to associate with this topic.

HorseWithNoTimeForThis · 09/01/2020 08:25

Ah! Good - nobody else here knows why the t-shirts made them so unhappy (remember the bloke crying about it in the Macclesfield pub and so the lesbians were kicked out?) All this time I thought I was being thick(er than usual) I am so pleased that it not just me.

Horrible feeling it is to think that everyone gets something and you don't.

NotBadConsidering · 09/01/2020 08:33

I like to imagine that there is a secret WhatsApp group of gender critical people at the Guardian whose mission is to inject small acts of sabotage into the Guardian by inserting articles beneath the scope big woke boss editors that accurately uses the term sex in proper context. They’re probably hoping to build up to something big but know there are woke spies of LOJ everywhere so have to be very careful. The WhatsApp group’s administrator is likely Hadley Freeman. Members include Sean Ingle, Suzanne Moore and Kate Carter (the running person) and the group is probably titled “A Tribute to Deborah Orr: Go Fuck Yourself Katharine Viner”.

Alternatively, they’re just another propaganda machine who publish what suits their agenda when it suits them.

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