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Twitter supporting paedophiles.

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sunshinepoppy · 08/01/2020 06:51

Twitter seems to be openly siding with paedophiles and allows open chats amongst pedophiles who call themselves MAPs. They changed their TOS last year to allow paedophilic discussions.

A paedophile apologist was arguing that if we were mean to paedophiles and do not let them be open about themselves, then they may commit suicide.

My friend has now received a 12 hour ban for saying “I really am quite fine with pedophiles killing themselves.”

What can we do to fight back against such a social media giant that is allowing the normalisation of paedophilic chat?

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theflushedzebra · 08/01/2020 07:03

A paedophile apologist was arguing that if we were mean to paedophiles and do not let them be open about themselves, then they may commit suicide.

Yeah - I'm with your friend - not going to lose any sleep over that.

I don't know what can be done about twitter tbh - they don't seem to be accountable to anyone Confused

I would imagine the mods/people in charge have no idea of the history of PIE in the UK - and how they latched onto the gay rights/civil rights movement in the 70s, and how they even captured members of the Labour party - and how those members lived to regret it.

Gingerkittykat · 08/01/2020 07:13

Hmmmm, give us our own way or we will kill ourselves seems to be a tactic another group likes to use.

I think the only way to change things like that is massive publicity from a big news source.

Boulshired · 08/01/2020 07:15

Part of the problem is there is no worldwide definition. It would need to be policed on area, culture and religion.

bingbangbing · 08/01/2020 07:17

I've reported this before.

Hopefully where people in the UK are stupid enough to identify themselves, the police will take an interest

KundaliniRising · 08/01/2020 07:25

I am aghast and sickned that paedophilia is supported by Twitter ShockSadAngry

How can this be allowed?

Ffs it is PIE all over again

TheNameGames · 08/01/2020 07:37

What did they change in their TOS to allow talks about paedophilia?

rodgmum · 08/01/2020 07:38

I suspect that apologist is the well known one that I’m thinking of who seems to be trying to get people to accept that there is nothing wrong with paedophilia thinking, so long as they don’t act on it and they should be able to express themselves freely.

Twitter is a cesspit.

FamilyOfAliens · 08/01/2020 07:39

A paedophile apologist was arguing that if we were mean to paedophiles and do not let them be open about themselves, then they may commit suicide.

Classic abuser tactic.

TheGirlWithAPrince · 08/01/2020 07:42

Im with your friend too, in fact i would gladly help them.
At the end of the day they are scum, the worst of the criminals.

Anyone doing anything bad to a child deserves to be tortured for life.

ImFineThankYouSusan · 08/01/2020 07:46

Not just pedophiles but zoophiles too.

Sickening.

ChristaMSieland · 08/01/2020 07:56

This is why the coming of the internet was like opening Pandora's box.

Very worrying and no obvious solution.

These huge tech companies are ungovernable.

FamilyOfAliens · 08/01/2020 08:00

Anyone doing anything bad to a child deserves to be tortured for life.

Don’t be ridiculous. Thank goodness we don’t have mob rule in this country - except for on the internet.

OhHolyJesus · 08/01/2020 08:12

I don't miss Twitter but everybody uses it, it's so influential and I don't see how to fight back.

It's the thing about taking the bad (evil) with the good. Twitter is great for whatever your interest is, you connect with people around the world, etc. Just because there are paedos on their people aren't going to stop using it. It's gross but I don't think you can fight it, at least I can't think of a way, only not use it and encourage others not to?

Perhaps if we all wrote to our MPs and the new Minister for Culture etc after the reshuffle? Isn't there something coming out after that consultation?

The SM giants are so huge and unstoppable. We need massive institutional change.

TheGirlWithAPrince · 08/01/2020 08:16

@familyofaliens

At least that would maybe make pedos rethink about actually doing it.
Sorry but some children are tortured for life from what happens to them by these sick people so why shouldnt the adults suffer?

And im speaking from someone who knows multiple people who have been severely abused / sexually abused as children and they are scarred for life... one of them is in a hospital and will likely stay there for life, she is tortured and hurt so why shouldnt the man be?

He gets to go into prison for 20 years but where is his sacrifice? he has ruined a life but he gets to keep his.

TheGirlWithAPrince · 08/01/2020 08:19

@familyofaliens

also its easy to be against it but unless you have had a young child go through that.... you dont know shit about what you would and wouldnt do to the sick people who harmed them.

i know that if someone DARED to hurt my son or daughter then they would get fcked up.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 08/01/2020 08:21

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bingbangbing · 08/01/2020 08:39

@TheGirlWithAPrince

CSA survivor here.

You're wrong. Do something useful with your anger. Advocating torture makes you as bad as the abusers.

FamilyOfAliens · 08/01/2020 08:40

also its easy to be against it but unless you have had a young child go through that.... you dont know shit about what you would and wouldnt do to the sick people who harmed them.

It’s also easy to act the big brave vigilante from behind your keyboard.

And you have no idea what I, or anyone else on here has been through, so stop making assumptions to back up your thirst for revenge.

boatyardblues · 08/01/2020 11:50

And you have no idea what I, or anyone else on here has been through, so stop making assumptions to back up your thirst for revenge.

Likewise, you have no idea how current issues are for other posters on this thread. By the same token, you aren’t in a position to judge whether others’ strength of feeling is justified.

FloralBunting · 08/01/2020 12:05

Boywiki? Jesus, I'm not clicking on that for all the tea in China. I saw this the other day, and it's precisely what Prostasia et al have pushing for - Twitter is a perfect arena to 'discuss' kinks and 'sex work' and being a NOMAP (Non Offending Minor Attracted Person for those still blissfully unaware). Nonces used to have to have underground networks for this shit, but they've somehow managed to groom enough fucking idiots to allow them to openly discuss their vomit-worthy proclivities because they've used all the right buzzwords.

FOR FUCKSAKE WE'VE BEEN WARNING ABOUT THIS FOR AGES, AND TRYING TO POINT OUT THIS IS WHY WEAKENING SAFEGUARDING IS SO DAMNED DANGEROUS, AND SCORES OF POSTS TRYING TO DISCUSS IT HAVE BEEN DELETED AND WOMEN PUNISHED FOR TALKING ABOUT IT.

How the ever living fuck do some people look at themselves in the mirror?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 08/01/2020 12:27

^ To be fair, I didn't click on that exact link, I clicked on a much less obvious link and part way through reading it (it was on children's rights) it suddenly focussed on erotophobia and sex and I went 'huh'? and did some more investigating - hence finding the parent page.

Because I still need to find out more about children's rights I have continued googling and have found multiple other, similar sources that confuse and conflate adults' (men's) desires to sexually exploit children with 'children's rights' (as well as actual legitimate sites about children's rights I will add).

FloralBunting · 08/01/2020 12:33

Oh YetAnother, sorry, didn't mean to imply you were dodgy. I get how easy it is to stumble across this shit.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 08/01/2020 12:36

Ta... I wasn't sure if you thought I was offering dodgy clickbait and to be honest I wasn't sure whether to post the link or not for this reason but decided to with a warning (just so the evidence is there).

But yes, they are getting bolder. :(

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 08/01/2020 12:54

A paedophile apologist was arguing that if we were mean to paedophiles and do not let them be open about themselves, then they may commit suicide.

As a PP has mentioned this is classic abuser tactics. The 'come back to me or I'll take a handful of tablets' thing has been used against me by an abusive ex - this after he stalked me, concussed me by slamming my head down a shop window in front of a crowd of witnesses who did absolutely sod all to help me, and tried to run me over in his car. It's emotional blackmail to the nth degree. And at the time, harsh though I sounds, I half-wished he'd carry through on his intention to take his life so I didn't have to live in fear of mine.

The 'be kind or I'll kill myself' tactic also shows up the implied abuse behind it, given it entails a complete abdication of personal responsibility. We all have to own our decisions. If a paedophile or anyone else for that matter decides to take their own life then they, and only they, are responsible for that choice - no matter how sad the circumstances behind it.

The quickest way to disarm them is to do what the 12-hour banned Twitter account holder did, and neither care nor take ownership over whether they go ahead. (And isn't it weird how the actual victims of child abuse are cajoled to put up, shut up, not talk about historic abuse, or worse, are victim-shamed?)

I agree with her. If one such abuser were to remove themselves from this planet by their own hand, it would be no great loss. Twitter - WTAF?

Packingsoapandwater · 08/01/2020 12:55

These huge tech companies are ungovernable.

Not if you threaten them with legislation that defines them as publishers, rather than platforms.

Because, lets be honest, twitter is a publisher, as is facebook. And by rights, they should be subject to the same legalities as anyone involved in the process of print publishing.

You should be able to sue twitter or facebook for publishing a defamatory or illegal comment.

And that's why those companies spend millions lobbying governments to remain "platforms", because then those rules do not apply.