Women's prison creates unit for trans prisoners using money meant for women's health unit

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The rushed creation of a unit, at Downview women's prison, for male prisoners who identify as women took priority over a planned new health facility for the female prisoners, according to a new report from Downview's independent monitoring board.

Tweet has link to report twitter.com/RichardJGarside/status/1213405272301080583

News story in the Times which only talks about how the trans prisoners were failed www.thetimes.co.uk/article/transgender-prison-wing-failed-its-inmates-phqkp0qff

Its going to be difficult to keep up the narrative of being the most oppressed with this much govt support.
If anyone has a share token for the article, can you post it?

Will they be taking resources away from men's prisons to build special facilities for transmen as well?

Didn't think so.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/transgender-prison-wing-failed-its-inmates-phqkp0qff?shareToken=1cf71d68037c617cbd564ccbdb126810

The report, after explaining the situation, goes onto refer the the inmates in the trans unit as "these women" thus providing yet more unwarranted legitimacy that these prisoners are women like any other.

We have to challenge this gross erosion of language.

www.womenarehuman.com/the-alarm-has-been-sounded-whos-going-to-respond/
This is an account of the situation in Canada, where women's rights organisations campaign for male sex offenders to be moved to the female estate... And the results

Will they even want to use a separate facility?
If the whole point is to gain access to vulnerable women and also have their delusions validated I would say not.

UK Prison population is around 80,000 men and 4,000 women. If just a small fraction of those men sensed this was a cushy number, they could easily outnumber the women in the female estate.

That account from Canada is shocking. And I am not surprised that in this country, yet more government money has been redirected from the vulnerable to feed the demands of this particular group.

It will be about control, power and manipulation. Announcing that they identify as TW hands prisoners tools for all three. Also interest, easier living conditions, variety. So without even considering sexual motivations, gender dysphoria, access to women etc there is already a host of reasons why a prisoner would be motivated to do this. Why wouldn't a long term prisoner identify as a TW?

I have a female family member who worksin the Prison service. She fully supports the integration of trans women in female prisons and speaks of them as vulnerable and needing additional resources. The brainwashing of our institutions, schools, nhs, prisons, work places is complete. It happened quickly and insidiously. Despite a long debate with this family member I could not convince her otherwise.

It just shows how much women prop up patriarchy and other structures which go against the rights and protections of women.

It just shows how much women prop up patriarchy and other structures which go against the rights and protections of women.

Even though I know this to be true, I'll never understand how such women justify such views to themselves. It makes me so sad.
Women disagree about all sorts of things, we are not a hive mind. But how can any woman with a shred of humanity think it's ok to house TW with female prisoners when so many of these TW have convictions for violent and sexual crimes baffles me. To not have a twinge of concern or worry for the plight of other women. To be so indoctrinated by an ideology that they would happily sacrifice women, both figuratively and literally, on the altar of transgenderism.

Yes I know someone who used to work at a high level in prisons...but who is convinced that these men are vulnerable, but can still not show why they should be housed in the women’s estate...only can state TWAW. When the prison services were well aware of the reasons why there might be a sudden surge of men with a certain . There are males already treated as vulnerable and there is no reason why they should not be housed with them

Powergower - maybe she should go and work at one of the prisons where all of the prisoners are sex offenders. When you know what the transwomen are in for, you feel less inclined that they are vulnerable and needing support.

Yes I know someone who used to work at a high level in prisons...but who is convinced that these men are vulnerable, but can still not show why they should be housed in the women’s estate...only can state TWAW.

No doubt some of these prisoners are vulnerable (not the Karen Whites, obviously), but that doesn't mean they should be in the women's estate, because they are not women. Housing them with other vulnerable males is the rational option.

Do any of these TWAW believers explain at exactly what point a man becomes a woman? Because if TWAW and TW are all born male, there must be a point in time and in their transition where they go from being male to being female.

As far as I'm led to believe they were always women, they just didn't realise it. Or something. You raise a good point though.
If they are always women then why is there a need for transition at all?