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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

First mention of T in LGB

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thatdamnwoman · 02/01/2020 15:18

For those tracking the point at which LGB became LGBT I've found written reference to a group called 10% / Ten Percent that was active in Cardiff in 2000 and described itself as an LGBT organisation.

The following year the Welsh Assembly Government put out a consultation document inviting responses from the LGBT community.

Can't help wondering who was involved in 10% and whether there was a link between them and the WAG and policy capture.

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2020yeah · 02/01/2020 15:19

At my uni we had an LBG society when I joined in 1999 and it was LGBT when I left. I remember being a bit Hmm as to whether they were the same issue back then.

ImFineThankYouSusan · 02/01/2020 15:28

I'm an early 80's child. It was definitely just LGB growing up.

MmeBufo · 02/01/2020 15:38

I was active in the student union of my FE college from 1994-1996. At some point in 95/96 word came from the NUS that LGB was now +T

thatdamnwoman · 02/01/2020 16:02

Wow. So long, long before Stonewall officially adopted the T.

Any ideas who was pushing the T within the Student Union? Was Press for Change (Stephen Whittle and Christine Burns) involved? They started PFC in 1992.

Interestingly the only name I can find associated with 10% / Ten Percent is a lesbian. Why doesn't that surprise me?

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fiestar · 02/01/2020 16:38

I was at FE college from 97-99. I was the equal ops officer. We ran a very small LGB club and a trans woman joined. I really liked her, she was lovely and she asked that they change it to LGBT.

The gay guy who was running the club was VERY AGAINST. We had a whole meeting about it and it was so civilised. The gay fella said that sexuality and gender were completely different, the challenges faced were very different and it didn't make sense to join forces.

The trans member said that as she was a lesbian as well, there was a cross over. Plus a lot of the violent transphobia and homophobia comes from the same place: performing femininity is wrong.

The rest of the club didn't feel strongly either way. Just that they wanted to be welcoming, to offer safety to those who were at risk from male violence for not conforming to heteronormativity and what was the harm? So, we added the T. This will have been in 1998 in a small midlands town.
I think the gay guy started an exclusive spinoff club, but no one thought that was transphobic.

Even though this trans member was attracted to women she never moaned on about the cotton ceiling or anything like that. It was all very wholesome. I went to NUS conference with her but she got her own room, I bunked with another young woman. No one questioned this or thought it was transphobic. It just made sense, as she was at the start of her transition.

The late 90s were very different.
I think what's happened is that lovely people like my old friend have been drowned out by people who are not acting in good faith who have glommed on to the movement.

MmeBufo · 02/01/2020 16:45

Mmm. I really don’t know where it came from - not an edict from the NEC though. Various people from other student unions were using it and the general view was that it should be added

MmeBufo · 02/01/2020 16:48

Yy, very similar discussions were had in our LGB society, fiester. Lincolnshire backwater town

HorseWithNoAnecdotes · 02/01/2020 16:51

I'd love to get to the bottom of this.

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