Should Stonewall write guidance schools?

[NeurotrashWarrior]

From SSUK and Maya Forstater

twitter.com/safeschools_uk/status/1211617136738742273?s=21

*Have councils allowed Stonewall to write schools’ guidance? Who should write guidance for schools? What should their understanding of safeguarding be?

The @OxfordshireCC Transgender Toolkit does not acknowledge Stonewall as a contributing organisation. Should there be transparency over who has written and/or contributed to guidance?*

twitter.com/mforstater/status/1211335704669827074?s=21

Read the threads around detransitioners and the partners of teens with ROGD and the answer is overwhelmingly, no.

Why would the council not be transparent on this?

Nothing is ever transparent on this. The idea is to obfuscate, divert attention and sneak things through under the radar.

twitter.com/OnlyObjectivity/status/1208465828661878784?s=20

Who, exactly, do you go to with queries over safeguarding?

Oh silly me, the NSPCC.

This all continues to be a major safeguarding issue in that stonewall and so by proxy, schools, are moving down the route of being increasingly affirmative when it comes to "gender identity."

Buried in the first tweet in the op is a crowd funder supporting the challenging of Oxford cc if you'd like to support this.

They're right about policy laundering.

But we already have statutory guidance in Working Together. No material should be going into schools that contradicts Working Together, whether it's about trans issues or anything else. Rather than us contributing our spare tenners via crowdfunds, DoE should be instituting an immediate investigation.

I wonder if a letter campaign to the minister would do any good?

Lang is correct. There is no good reason for Stonewall, or any other group, to be able to bypass statutory guidance.

Do you know who the minister is, Lang? Happy to write to them.

Also happy write to them here.

Link to working together documents for info:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/working-together-to-safeguard-children--2

Gavin Williamson (sigh) at the moment. But we don't know if there will be a reshuffle in the New Year.

Thank you. I'm happy to write twice.

Is the problem though, that the POV is that by raising the status of and solidifying the 'actuality' of 'trans' as a real biological condition so to speak, and setting affirmative structures in place via policy, toilets, school attitudes etc, that they are following safeguarding guidance from the POV of the child who considers them self trans?

they are following safeguarding guidance from the POV of the child who considers them self trans?

Yes, for facilities. But what about the stuff about confidential disclosures being okay? Or no need for information sharing? Or parental alienation? All these are contrary to Working Together and place the children who question their gender outside safeguarding protocols afforded to all other children. These guidance packs pretty much paint a target on their backs for infiltrating abusers.

It's important to clarify often and publicly that Stonewall have been perceived as the experts to turn to for unbiased and pure information, and have traded on this assumption and the associated respect, where in fact they are a single interest and highly biased political lobby. And when they train and write policies they are lobbying, using those they train to achieve a political agenda that is against current law, against standards in safeguarding and the best interests of female people and children.

And that in the name of training from Stonewall and other groups, people have advised and trained who were neither qualified to do so or trained in the most basic safeguarding or equality standards that would be expected of a minimum wage care assistant or lunchtime supervisor. One indeed was declared by an inquiry, after extensive work with them, that they were not capable of understanding safeguarding.

Due diligence. I've started using the phrase a lot at work, and making a point of including the background, credentials and qualifications of any outside professional and so demonstrating their fitness to be involved.

Excellent post Michelleoftheresistance. Why Stonewall get a free pass is a mystery.

There has always been a history of 'unsuitable' organisations, groups and individuals seeking to access schools to promote their political or personal viewpoints - and occasionally to groom children. Sports clubs, music tuition and private tuition were a magnet for paedophiles seeking access to children and necessitated major campaigns to tackle the problem. Until recently local authorities and senior staff in schools had little hesitation in gatekeeping and refusing access. Yet now, in the name of 'inclusion' some exceptionally inappropriate adults have been welcomed by schools, sports organisations, major businesses and government departments to advise them on removing safeguarding, privacy and safety from both children and women.