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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
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GloGirl · 24/12/2019 21:05

Sorry, link fail

www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/eeyle3/the_story_about_labiaplasty_you_havent_heard

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T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 24/12/2019 21:19

That’s absolutely horrific and all those other poor women sharing their experiences are just heartbreaking. Maybe when posters come on here slabbering about how easy they find smear tests and how it’s only a couple of minutes so others should get over it, they should be pointed to the comments attached to that thread.

OhHolyJesus · 24/12/2019 21:20

That is horrific.

I feel so sorry for her - she missed the statue of limitations by one week? After building up the courage to take legal action....god, poor woman. I hope she gets justice, although I doubt she ever will, at the very least I hope rules are changed and standards raised. No one wants to be the poster girl but I hope something not awful comes from this.

GloGirl · 25/12/2019 01:37

It was just horrendous to read. Sorry I realise its terrible Christmas timing but if I waited till a 'better' time to post it I would have forgotten.

I've had corrective surgery after childbirth and nobody cares about sensation - loss thereof, sexual function etc. It's very distressing and I realise not at all in the same league as these women (who on earth would alter labia for cosmetic reasons on a child?!) but it's an issue close to my chest. Or vulva I should say.

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bettybeans · 25/12/2019 01:57

Horrendous tale and the circumstances and follow up comments give me the absolute fear at prospect of potentially living without NHS.

As an aside, and it might not even matter in context, the name of the poster of that story rings bells for reasons I can’t currently explain.

GloGirl · 25/12/2019 02:16

She has linked her instagram handle at the very bottom of her post which is similar to her reddit name. You might recognise her from there @bettybeans ?

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FannyCann · 25/12/2019 09:56

Private patients of Ian Paterson had an uphill struggle to get compensation and will still get less than the NHS patients.
Initially Spire denied liability as they argued they did not directly employ him. Iirc I believe his own insurers also denied liability as they said they weren't responsible for him operating illegally or something like that.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/13/ian-paterson-spire-healthcare-pay-272m-victims-rogue-breast/amp/

FannyCann · 25/12/2019 10:01

This explains more.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-40124691

fantasmasgoria1 · 25/12/2019 10:07

She used to be on quora. She posted a lot about this and it is horrific.

FannyCann · 25/12/2019 10:11

My derail was response to bettybeans re the NHS as it's important to be aware.

SetYourselfOnFire · 27/12/2019 01:41

Read the whole thread. More horrifying stories. More endemic misogyny. I didn't realize they were performing cosmetic labiaplasties on minors. Without surgeons having been taught correct female anatomy. I blame porn. And capitalism. It shouldn't be legal. The older I get the less I want any interaction with the medical community whatsoever.

getyourbollocksoutofmyface · 27/12/2019 23:13

I had a labiaplasty at age 19 although it was first discussed when I was a child apparently - I remember the doctor telling my mother I had labia elongation and would need surgery to correct it , as it wasn’t normal .

I didn’t know they were doing a hood reduction until I woke up with a hell of a lot of skin chopped off . I didn’t get any pain relief , I was told I’d be fine on two paracetomal . I had 35 stitches . Sent home unable to walk for a week .

I was told it had to be done for medical reasons, I was in chronic pain before because far too much skin there . The nhs funded it but they didn’t give a shit before or after the surgery how I felt or if I was coping. In fact there was no consultant follow up . GP and nurse whipped the stitches out after three weeks and that was it . Nobody had five minutes to ask me if I felt alright with things .

Got diagnosed with post traumatic stress about seven years later and the NHS apologised profusely .

However even now if I need a smear I get the whole - ‘oh, what’s wrong with your vulva? Oh did you feel ugly then? Is that why you had it done?’

Still have scarring to my labia, it’s no longer painful but there’s lumps and it’s obvious it’s been ‘altered’ . It doesn’t look normal at all . Nothing about the whole process has been pleasant at all, consultant gynaecologist said to me a couple of years ago I will never get over it , will just gradually learn to live with it ...

getyourbollocksoutofmyface · 27/12/2019 23:22

I think to be honest the entire gynaecology profession is full of misogyny and downright nastiness but that’s another thread; I’ve only once or twice been spoken to with respect . I’ve had problems since childhood - they’re looking into it being a syndrome - and have had hundreds of internals , scans, speculums etc etc .

One appointment with a nurse about a year ago I knew was an internal and I didn’t wait for her to close the curtain before I started removing my jeans . She said I needed to try to preserve my dignity ... I’ve had internals at visiting hour, in A&E with a cleaner mopping the floor, with five people involved for no good reason other than to see an unusual presentation, an appointment in which a gynaecology doctor insisted on trying to teach me how to masturbate, another where a consultant randomly walked in during a transvaginal scan, took the wand, without even introducing himself ...

After a while you just block out what’s happening to you and just blindly get on with it . You can’t think about dignity or let yourself get upset . I’ve never, ever discussed it in detail in real life with anyone as I can’t .

nocoolnamesleft · 28/12/2019 14:41

Can we call it by the correct name? FGM.

TheLittleBrownFox · 28/12/2019 14:47

Holy fuck to the stories on this thread. Sad Flowers

Billy21 · 28/12/2019 17:10

Okay - as a female. Your breasts are too small, too large, uneven, nipples too large, too small, uneven. Your sexual organs are too small, too large, uneven, are damaged by masturbation, are leading you to seek sexual gratification. Here comes surgery. For all that's holy - leave our bodies alone. We are perfect as we are.

GloGirl · 29/12/2019 17:01

@MNHQ could I reach out to this woman see if she would like to do a guest blog or similar?

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