The LGB Alliance website goes live

[WomanBornNotWorn]

Ok my previews still aren't working but if this doesn't take, it isn't hard to type in!

www.lgballiance.org.uk

lgballiance.org.uk/

Oh that's a lovely Christmas present

The declaration on that website is really powerful.
It's really well written.
💪🏻

Bravo, and good luck to all who sail in her!

smashes bottle of prosecco on the computer screen

Well done

(The sign up to support us returns an error. Not sure if fault or perhaps just inundated with requests)

The declaration on that website is really powerfull It's really well written

Agreed
💪🏻

Looks great. The newsletter sign up didn't work for me either. I'll try again later.

So pleased about this.

Send 'em an email for their testimonials page.

(a bit thin at the moment.)

Fantastic!

Whoo!

That mission statement is very well written.

I am interested to hear from any TRAs/gender advocates as to how what is written there is in any way transphobic or ‘anti-trans’, as I’m sure the accusations will fly. I cannot see anything transphobic there, just wholehearted support for same-sex attracted people & sex-based rights.

If they introduce an option for regular donations by DD or something I’ll sign up.

We believe that attempts to compel women to believe that male genitals can be female is a form of sexual assault, an attack on the rights of lesbians and a threat to their very existence.

So much this.

This is why the Alliance is so very much needed.

Yay this is brilliant!!

Love this, so glad to see it there in all it's glory. A fantastic way to start Christmas!

Fantastic and well done to all!

They are aware the sign-up link isn't working and will fix it in the New year. I'm heterosexual but in full support of all their aims. Good luck to this much needed organisation!

will the LGB Alliance have members? I am a bit skeptical about organizations that just ask for support and. donations e.g. The Guardian.

The website looks brilliant, what a lovely christmas present

This is excellent news. More power to the Alliance!

PinkNews reaction is that LGB Alliance is in league with ‘Straight Pride’ (no, me neither, but apparently it’s something a few wankbadgers in USA have done) because their website has a black and white colour scheme. Also, sex isn’t binary, because actual science and literal intersex people (yup, they wrote that).

So good to know they haven’t got any actual objections to the literal website

Merry Crimbo!

From the site:
One way to protect same-sex attracted people is, for example, to encourage organisations to record numbers of LGB employees separately to numbers of transgender employees.

I must admit, I hadn't even thought of that, although it seems so obvious when I read it. Also the bit about employers counting "other sexual orientations" like fucking "demiromantic..." It's the Information Age, getting correct information should be a matter of course.

Separating data on sexuality from gender identity is a no brainer really isn’t it, but it’s an illustration of how far down the rabbit hole we are that it seems like a groundbreaking idea. You wouldn’t smoosh together data on race and disability, so why other characteristics?

Cwen yes this ^^

Years ago before I heard much about this on an adult adhd forum there was a question about how there are more people with adhd who are LGBT+ and discussions about why. I was surprised I was the only person who pointed out that gi is different from sexuality and therefore the reasons those with adhd might be over represented within lgb maybe entirely different from t. A lot of people were very confused by this. Lots of explainations about cis etc like I didn’t know what trans was (and actually I didn’t know much about apg side of things) but huge confusion about the idea that sexuality is a fundamentally different thing from gender id (which stands true imho regardless of anyone’s views on trans ideology). It’s like people think heterosexuality goes hand in hand with traditional views of gender expectations, which isn’t something I find true in real life at all, so it’s like people assume that lgb must go hand in hand with non traditional views of gender expectations, which again isn’t a helpful assumption imho. Like as if people lump being the ‘non status quo’ sexuality must mean you are different’ in other ways also.

I’m clearly explaining this badly here..... but I think it felt a bit like a form of othering iykwim, like putting someone in the ‘different’ box and therefore assuming they must therefore be ‘different’ in all ways, which is ignorant (even if unintentionally).

I hope that makes some sense.....

And the site is awesome!! Merry Xmas!

It’s just occurred to me musing on this that the whole concept of LGBTQA+ alphabet soup could in itself be said to be (cis)heteronormative. It’s grouping together anything not-‘straight’, not-heterosexual, not-‘cis’, anything vaguely kinky, ‘queer’ or different, and saying ‘this is varying from the standard‘. Why should we accept that ‘straight’ as the standard and then define anything differing in relation to it. Nope thankyou, not for me.

*think this is the first time ever I’ve found the concept of ‘cis’ in any way useful in discussion, I don’t know who it can truly be applied to though, a very small proportion of people I would have thought.

There are some really useful insights here.

cwen that's a really good point.

I'm not LG or b so my opinion probably doesnt come from a.place of having been through it so I am.obviously open to being told to.bugger off.

But personally I agree It would be nice if it didnt have to be defined. That all children can just be taught about healthy relationships between two consenting adults being what's normal. But then again I Also think that we need the T to stand alone so people see it for the homophobic racist regressive movement it is. As long as theres the lgb to hide behind they will continue to make people afraid of being labelled homophobic and transphobic when asking questions.

But I guess still in some circles LGB people still have alot of prejudice against them sadly and with lesbian erasure already taking place I dont think it's fair to erase them further ...

Really shouldnt be like this though