Toilets....again

[Godxilla]

Just stumbled upon this tweet (a teacher -supposedly- calling a female student a TERF just because she's uncomfortable with 'gender neutral' loos. It's now reached the point that this dogma is used to bully school kids , FFS.
I can't seem to get the link to work.

twitter.com/ChiefBrody19/status/1209207941435461633?s=19

Godzilla - I can’t imagine what the problem is...

Privacy, dignity and safety of girls - An issue?? Nope??? ..... Defining silence...

mobile.twitter.com/Glinner/status/1209276683372711936?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Do we think The Guardian needs more joined up thinking? Thinking at all would be a start...

Godxilla - apologies - pesky autocorrect

Maybe those teachers need to challenge WaterAid too?

washmatters.wateraid.org/blog/we-need-public-and-community-toilets-that-suit-women-and-girls-not-just-men

Where facilities do exist, they are often gender blind and fail to cater to some of the specific requirements women and girls have when using the toilet. For example, toilets should cater for menstruation needs – including somewhere hygienic and private to wash or dispose of used menstrual products – and for the increased or different pressures on the body during pregnancy, menopause, or periods of incontinence (which afflicts women more than men).

Furthermore, existing facilities do not always adequately respond to the different social pressures and realities women and girls face. In the Dhaka survey, three quarters of the 47 blocks were not female-friendly or child-friendly because they were in unsafe areas or had no reliable water supply and/or no lighting, making them impractical, undesirable and unsafe for women and girls.

This means toilets are failing to cater adequately to at least half of the population.

Practitioners and academics are challenging this type of gender-blind planning and design. Awareness is increasing of the need to make toilets female-friendly, and more women are becoming involved in the process of making that happen – as planners, engineers, local government officials and advocates. But progress is too slow, and inconsistent.

LGB Alliance have made a good tweet about it this morning:

twitter.com/AllianceLGB/status/1209388721579147264

Here is one of the most blatant examples of the institutional capture, achieved across the UK, that is instilling a set of ideas that is harmful to women and girls and to LGB people, especially girls who may grow up to be lesbian. #LGBIssues @ChildrensComm

The point about the word TERF Greenkit is not what it's supposed to stand for, it's about how it's used:

terfisaslur.com

In other words, the way it's used on the Internet is often in conjunction with threats of violence, and particularly sexual violence towards women.

Also, I'm not sure of the demographic of this particular schools catchment but I would have thought most schools in that part of North London would have at the very least, a significant minority of Muslim girls.

There is a Muslim girl in the schools cover photo. What about their need for single sex facilities? Or do they only matter when they are being used for virtue signalling on Twitter?

Or do they only matter when they are being used for virtue signalling on Twitter?

That's the one.

You cant tell a sexually abused girl from looking at them. You can see a head scarf though so perfect for showing just how far you are prepared to go to pander to the penis and get your bonerwall.awared.

Thank you to those who have explained TERF and it's use. I am relatively new to all this.

Bizzarly in my daughters uni the girls use the toilet with a transgender student because they feel safer

I just can't get over a school publicly talking about its own pupils, children, in this way. It's bizarre!

Not including the actual issue tweeted about why the fuck is a teacher tweeting about a pupil- that’s hugely inappropriate.

If a pupil had actually said something amounting to hate speech - get rid of the immigrants or similar - the teachers should be dealing with it within school confidentially and not referring to it outside of school at all especially not social media. That’s hugely unprofessional and would be a breech of confidentiality and professional ethics.

If a pupil had actually said something amounting to hate speech - get rid of the immigrants or similar - the teachers should be dealing with it within school confidentially and not referring to it outside of school at all especially not social media. That’s hugely unprofessional and would be a breech of confidentiality and professional ethics.

I know, this is what I thought. Its so unprofessional, it goes against everything teachers are told about dealing with that sort of stuff. Why? Who is it for? It reads like a 'look how compliant we are being' as if it's some sort of cult or something.

I wonder if it’s also about making it normal to cross boundaries? Like expecting kids/parents have a teacher crossing professional boundaries on social media is part of keeping kids blind to boundaries being crossed by boys in toilets.

Like social conditioning ikswim?

Either way I hope parents complain.

I'm so glad that it wasnt just me thinking the world has gone bat shit crazy. I'm so glad I'm not growing up now as a female. When I was a teen, I bloody couldn't even walk into a chemist to buy sanitary products if there were any males there, I'd walk straight back out, and try again later.

I wish people would stop saying "what about the Muslim girls?", not that I don't care about Muslim girls but because ALL girls deserve privacy. It suggests that it doesn't matter as much for other girls.

If some students are happy to use unisex toilets then those facilities should be in addition to the single sex ones.

My head's a bit fuzzy this afternoon (Happy Christmas!!) but I do remember Stonewall offering free suite of trainings for primary schools meeting certain criteria - I wonder if they've rolled that out to secondary schools as well.

Lots of very political posts since the holidays began

Yes. I wonder if someone else has taken over the social media since the end of term - perhaps the head or the person who usually looks after it has gone on holiday? Who knows - perhaps they've even been hacked?

How do we know that the insulting tweet about TERFs referred to toilets? I couldn't see that anywhere in the tweet.

What PeterRouseTheFleshofMankind said.

This school is breaking the law. Girls over the age of 8 are are legally entitled to single sex toilets and changing rooms.
The fact that a school is using hate speech should concern all of us.

Of course they do testing

But I think.it is useful to highlight that a muslim.girl would have the protected characteristic of religion and sex and race.
Which are ignored for a non protected characteristic of genfer identity.

Schools are supposed to uphold 'British Values' one of which is tolerance. The use of the word t**f in a tweet directly contradicts this.
I'm expecting a grovelling apology for all this soon.

I wish people would stop saying "what about the Muslim girls?", not that I don't care about Muslim girls but because ALL girls deserve privacy. It suggests that it doesn't matter as much for other girls.

I wasn't mentioning Muslim girls in a context of other girls not deserving privacy. I was pointing out that this school, and their ilk, are always falling over themselves to tell the world how inclusive they are, will use pictures of Muslims girls in their inclusive publicity, but actually don't really care about the needs of those girls, or indeed lots of other kids either.

i think pp shouldn't put too much focus on
'school favors boys than poor girls' line.

school favors 'some boys and girls' than other boys and girls.

i don't think this should be oppression race.