How to be more female

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-50854359/the-studios-teaching-trans-women-how-to-be-more-feminine.

Just in case anyone needs lessons in how to be more female

Does it not say feminine rather than female?

I gave up on the BBC news site because there’s something about drag or trans every day, on what is meant to be a personalised home page!

How to be more female:

1. Wake up.
2. Know you are female.
3. Forget about it.
4. Get on with whatever you were going to do that day.

More rubbish from the BBC.

Ooh, maybe I’ll have gift vouchers for Christmas [excited]

Let 2020 be my Year of the Swishy Walk!

This is a good BBC long read about Anne Lister aka Gentleman Jack
www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/the_life_and_loves_of_anne_lister

it's not about sexist stereotypes

definitely not

oh look! a squirrel!

what were we talking about?

Squirrel?

Yes, agree it’s the same enduring sexist stereotypes that labelled Anne Lister a Gentleman because she was not feminine enough.

Well the vocal coach didn’t get stuck down when she said ‘male vocal chords’ or ‘male larynx’.

Surley if you have a female brain in a male body, you don't need lessons to be more female, you already know how via your female brain.

if anyone is interested, the original BBC Anne Lister drama with Maxine Peake was very good - far better.

I have the diaries but haven't got round to reading them.

yes, the article says feminine but the things that are said in the video are cringeworthy.

AutumnRose, what was the name of the original Anne Lister drama you mention? I have to admit I enjoyed Gentleman Jack a lot.

Plan It was called "The Secret Diaries of Anne Lister".

I actually didn't finish Gentleman Jack!

The how to be feminine video is definitely cringy.
Voice coaching to teach a person to go up in intonation at the end of a phrase like they’re asking a question. Yet actual women are told not to speak like that because it makes us seem unsure and less confident in the workplace.

Make up lessons for £100 an hour? Really? And the artiste doing them seemed to have learnt on drag queens because he made the MtF transwoman look awful. They would be better off with YouTube tutorials.

The whole idea too of answering “what is femininity” with 1) squeaky voice and 2) dollface makeup has me feeling sick. I’m a woman and I feel feminine but do neither of those supposed essentially feminine things.

Thank you. AutumnRo. I will look it up. :)

I’m a woman and dollface make-up makes me look like a great big [redacted]

Sooo tired of hearing this shit.

Gross.

Why do transwomen need to go to 'femininity school' if their identity isn't based on gendered stereotypes ?

(Rhetorical question -I know the TRA answer to this one - it's our mean, nasty gatekeeping society that makes them prove they are truly women by slathering on makeup etc).

I honestly have no empathy left in me for any dysphoric male except my son right now (and some days, that's iffy) but if I did I would tell the actual dysphorics to stay away from these shysters (ah, but the market isn't for dysphorics, is it ? It's for the euphorics)

Why do they need to go to femininity lessons? Trans women are women!

I know a few dysphoric TWs and they've all just learned hair/makeup/walking in heels largely by practicing themselves (they came out before YT tutorials took off). Like the majority of women and drag queens do. Because lessons are expensive and none of those things are innate behaviours in anyone

I think Nicole came across pretty well in that video. She seemed quite pragmatic about other people's reactions and the unlikelihood of most transwomen "passing", and it's hard to begrudge her trying to modify her voice and face to blend in better. But the makeup artist saw her coming, didn't he? Claimed that none of the people he saw were vulnerable- well, at £100 a pop, just bring 'em on, and who cares? Really cynical and exploitative, I felt.

I mean if someone WANTS to get pro make up/walking lessons that's one thing. Most are marketed at women anyway. Making people feel like they NEED them to learn that skill...not OK.

I have no problem with voice coaching in itself. There is no easy DIY option for that.

How to be more feminine at Christmas....

Buy all the presents, don't forget in laws, teachers, kids friends etc

Send cards to everyone and their dog.

Plan food shop for 100 people

Attend every Carol concert, nativity, school fayre, don't forget to volunteer to help!

Wrap all presents

Spend all day hosting various ungrateful family members whilst working yourself to exhaustion.

If you follow these steps you will definitely pass!

Hear, hear, newuser

Make up lessons for £100 an hour? Really?

I sometimes wonder if that was what Theresa May had in mind when she announced that Britain would be the transgender capital of the world (or something like that) with reform of the GRA.

Sort of like Tony Blair and his world centre for banking.

You all noticed the most important sentence, yes? The man who helps these persons what have been born with male bodies get made over said;

"The people I see are not vulnerable"

Not. Vulnerable.

I mean we knew this yes? Like the effervescent Joss Prior saying on Twitter that they don't use women's spaces because they fear male violence. They just like violating boundaries.

Not. Vulnerable.

More female? There is no such thing. You either are or you're not.