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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Has there been a thread about Marie Stopes?

29 replies

ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen · 21/12/2019 18:03

Male chief executive of Marie Stopes was last year awarded a 100% bonus even as his base pay rose from £173,067 to £217,250.

So in 2018 he took home £434,000. Paid for by the charity's funds.

"...the charity citing improved performance such as 30 million people using its services."

Charities Commission now investigating.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/marie-stopes-failed-to-explain-chiefs-434-000-salary-package-cktlpn8jf

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notnowdennis · 21/12/2019 18:08

That is obscene. Utterly

Lordamighty · 21/12/2019 18:10

The charity sector stinks to high heaven.

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 21/12/2019 18:12

Men muscling in on ceo roles for organisations traditionally for women is a bugbear of mine.
Nct.
Mothers' union etc

Doyoumind · 21/12/2019 18:13

The argument is always they have to match the private sector to get the best talent but that bonus is huge.

PlasticPatty · 21/12/2019 18:14

Part of the war on women. And, traditional @SuperLoudPoppingAction.Historically, missionaries, for example. At first they couldn't get anyone to go so women were 'allowed' to do it. When it gained status, men took over.

ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen · 21/12/2019 18:26

Exactly @Doyoumind - even keeping in mind the argument for large charity sector remuneration (which I personally disagree with) the utter tone-deafness of being awarded a 100% bonus on top of a pay raise when you're a bloke in charge of a charity for women truly - to borrow a classic MN term that I can't stand! - boils my piss.

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TinaBarrow · 21/12/2019 18:30

Boils mine also. Sickening.

OhHolyJesus · 21/12/2019 18:51

I'm not defending this but wanted to say that the CEOs before were Male and the co-founders were Male. (This salary and bonus is out of the ordinary in comparison.) The COO/VP is female as is the majority of the senior leadership team.

The CEO is from commercial industry and when they make sideways moves into charity they often take a pay cut, which you would expect.

I imagine that the CEO is comfortable and wants his salary/bonus's to reflect what he is 'worth' in a profit-making business. Having your cake and eating it.

Beamur · 21/12/2019 19:55

This is a direct effect of David Cameron's 'big society'.
Also why I've cancelled all direct debits to big charities and only support small local ones now.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 21/12/2019 20:22

How is it an effect of Big Society?

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 21/12/2019 20:23

My employer is national and our ceo is on 40k.

I could understand 80 or 90k but I don't buy the idea of needing a ceo from industry. Ideally upskilling their staff would be better

Beamur · 21/12/2019 20:27

The way charities run has changed. They've become more like businesses. Hence the 'competitive' salaries. Chuggers, etc.

BuffaloCauliflower · 21/12/2019 20:29

Charities have to run like businesses because they have to be well run to provide the services they do effectively, especially as they pick up so much slack from the public sector. Yes this pay packet is too big, but the idea that all charities could be run effectively by a few keen volunteers with good hearts is too.

BuffaloCauliflower · 21/12/2019 20:30

Is silly too*

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 21/12/2019 20:38

No absolutely not volunteers.
Skilled, conscientious and well trained staff.

Doyoumind · 21/12/2019 20:48

Skilled, conscientious and well trained staff might work as managers but not as CEOs of multi million pound charities. No CEO of any value to a major charity is going to be someone who commands a salary of £40k. There are people in middle management earning more than that in many organisations.

BuffaloCauliflower · 21/12/2019 21:03

@Doyoumind exactly. The entire organisation ultimately rests on that person doing a great job, the best are needed and like it or not this is a capitalist society where wages are linked to both job level and the income of an organisation.

ChattyLion · 21/12/2019 21:07

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/808556/Abortion_Statistics__England_and_Wales_2018__1_.pdf

Location and funding of abortions
‘Table 3a.i. and Figure 3 show that in 2018, 26% of abortions were performed in NHS hospitals and 72% in approved independent sector places under NHS contract, making a total of 98% of abortions funded by the NHS. The remaining 2% were privately funded.
The proportion performed under NHS contract has increased almost every year since this information was collected in 1981, while the proportions of NHS hospital and private abortions has fallen over this time.’

So there basically isn’t a private sector for abortion in the UK, so few abortions are carried out at private hospitals.
72% of abortions are provided by the charitable providers (Marie Stopes and BPAS) with most of that paid for by the NHS and the remainder directly provided by the NHS itself.
So there isn’t any argument for paying a ‘private sector’ salary.

How does this compare to other charity CEOs where the charity provides health services to the public, or salaries at equivalent level of seniority in the NHS?

drspouse · 21/12/2019 21:09

How can 30 million people use its services? That's half the UK population.

ChattyLion · 21/12/2019 21:15

Good point DrSpouse, I was only thinking of the UK. Marie stopes work overseas too so this person must be CEO of the whole lot.

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 21/12/2019 21:16

The number of service user does seem very high.

But yes, the pay is stupidly high.

Lunar567 · 21/12/2019 21:18

I didn't find it a good service, had to wait over 3 weeks for appointment and travel for 2 hours as nothing was available sooner and nearer.

Beamur · 21/12/2019 21:50

to provide the services they do effectively, especially as they pick up so much slack from the public sector.
This is the point I was making too. This is the Big Society. Charity becomes a necessity and a business.

boatyardblues · 21/12/2019 21:52

If they provide contraceptive services as well as terminations, you could imagine it racking up a significant number of users - especially if the figures cover multiple years and returning service users are counted as new users each time. But even then 30M users seems high, as many women go to their GP or family planning clinics for their contraception. 🤷‍♂️

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 21/12/2019 21:56

They might do educational programmes and count all the people who take part? You could rack up the numbers that way.

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