If you voted based on manifestos around self-id....

[Thenagainmaybenot]

Make sure your MP and the losing candidates know why.

I think the Lib Dem’s must have an inkling of how this has played out.

Labour probably don’t care, but the Conservative core are most likely GC, and the Lib Dem’s lost a lot of long term supporters over this.

Keep it on the agenda as a problem to fix!

My conservative mp is supportive and I will be contacting him to remind him of what still needs doing.

and the Lib Dem’s lost a lot of long term supporters over this

Is there any evidence of that? There is speculation Swinson will lose her seat. I'm not remotely convinced that it is because as a poster on that thread said it is because she alienated 50% of the electorate.

I emailed my LibDem candidate yesterday to tell him self-id is the reason he didn't get my vote. Up to them if they want to use the information they've been given to inform future policy

I told canvassers locally and at the polling station. I now intend to visit my new Tory MP to discuss self identification as soon as possible, I suggest as many of us do the same as possible.

Is there any evidence of that? There is speculation Swinson will lose her seat. I'm not remotely convinced that it is because as a poster on that thread said it is because she alienated 50% of the electorate.

You only need shed a few votes to lose your seat if the margin is tight. Even if she turned a few women off voting for her, that could have done it. We'll have to see how close it was.

I'm not remotely convinced that it is because as a poster on that thread said it is because she alienated 50% of the electorate.

Are you referring to my post? I didn't say that's the reason she lost.

I was going to vote Liberal but their throwing women under the bus on the holy alter of trans ideology made me stay at home. First time I have missed a vote, but could not vote for Labour for pretty much the same reason, not a believer in current conservatism so I am homeless politically.

I'm not remotely convinced that it is because as a poster on that thread said it is because she alienated 50% of the electorate.

I think it's likely a good part of the reason. Corbyn's an idiot, Boris is worse. The LibDems should have easily mopped up all the left wing Remainer votes like they did in the local elections, instead something stopped people voting for them. There may be a myriad of reasons but I'm willing to bet self-id was a big part of it.

yes, this is a really good point. I will be contacting all 3 candidates to make it clear why I did or didn't vote for them.

Frustrating as it is, when all the choices are bad the people tend to stay home.

I shouldn’t think there is cold hard evidence yet. That is why we need to generate it. Emails letting them know (candidates and HQ) how this changed votes is the only way to make it clear.

Especially the Lib Dems given the stated positions of eg Ed Davey.

I would have voted Lib Dem as I dislike both Con and Labour, but refused to because of the self ID issue.

It was the reason I didn’t vote for them. Hadn’t thought of letting them know but that’s a good idea

I’ve emailed the candidates in my constituency. Thank you for suggesting this. I’m not letting this go.

Agree. I’ve emailed all candidates and explained why I spoiled and why women’s votes are up for grabs for whoever stands up against self ID bill. Spoiling itself, even with a message, doesn’t get the message to the candidates unless we follow up with emails/tweets etc

Same as Demented I’m a lost Tory voter and would and have backed up with LD but my candidate had one speech on his FB and it was about GI in primaries. So I spoilt my ballot instead.

I couldn't bring myself to vote for my local Tory candidate. He got in anyway. But his voting record is very conservative, anti gay marriage etc. Can't imagine he would support something which goes against 'traditional' values. I have deeply mixed feelings about that position as it's not great either.
I do think however, the suggestion of contacting your new/re-elected MP's about the issues you want to see them support is a good one. Ditto if the stance on an issue lost support.

I've emailed all the candidates to let them know that women's rights matter just as much as anyone else's and that I will vote accordingly.

For anyone who is interested in the sort of nerdy way I am about actual numbers, it is worth noting that the Lib Dem vote increased this time compared to 2017, and it seats were allocated as a percentage of votes cast they should have had around 75 seats.

Does anyone know of any seats were the Lib Dems came second by only a few votes?

I've written to the LibDems:

I wanted to let you know that the reason I felt I couldn't vote for you in yesterday's election was your party's attitude to Self ID and its effect on women's rights to sex segregated spaces like changing rooms, DV refuges, prisons etc.

Like most others I do not believe that transwomen are women. If you doubt me, look at the polls. The car crash interviews Jo Swinson gave in which she couldn't even define the word "woman" were serious vote losers.

I told a LibDem party member that I couldn't vote for her candidate because of Self ID and I gather from her response that I wasn't the first person who'd raised it with her.

I am on your mailing list as I used to support you. Please remove me.

Sincerely,

Prawn

Vote spoiled ."no to self ID “ and follow up email sent to re elected candidate.

Prawn, l will adapt your template and do the same. Good thinking everyone.

I just wanted to add that this is definitely worth doing. I wrote to my candidates and told them why I didn't vote for them yesterday. I've already had a reply from the LibDem one. My email stated:
As you didn't reply to email regarding GRA reform, I assumed you held the same position as (now former) leader Jo Swinson, and thus didn't vote for you. Swinson's abysmal performance on Radio 5's 'Your Call' on Monday, where she tied herself in knots trying to answer questions on the proposed GRA reform, led to damning coverage in the media: (links). I hope that in moving forwards the Liberal Democrats will take the female electorate more seriously on this issue and actually do their research, consulting with women's groups and recognising that women's rights matter as much as anyone else's.
His reply:
Sorry you took that view/assumption.
The reason I hadn't replied was that I wlhad been inundated with hundreds (literally) of emails all asking for me to pledge to different causes and points of view.
If we had had more time, who knows...?

Well, he'll have plenty of time now, seeing as he wasn't elected... Interesting response, suggesting he may not completely tow the party line on TWAW, but astounding that he would think I would consider he held any other view as a LD when women have been told they're not welcome in the party if they don't capitulate to gender ideology. I may get back to him and point that out. I thought it was a good idea to mention Swinson's car crash interviews on the Monday (also on the Today program) and resulting coverage to reinforce that I'm not some lone voice on this issue. The Labour candidate hasn't responded, no surprise there.

Stumbledin
Does anyone know of any seats were the Lib Dems came second by only a few votes?

JoSwinson

Funny how the OP thinks Tories are nearly all GC, I'm laughing sadly to myself. It's the Tories who started the whole self ID carry on, the Tories who've thrown all women under the bus with their swingeing cuts to LA budgets meaning that even the middle classes, in my part of the world, let alone working class women, are struggling to find good quality care for their elderly relatives. The Tories that have cut the NHS to the bone. removed nursing bursaries and increased tuition fees; where they're going to find their 30,000 new nurses when there's already a huge shortfall but no money to take on permanent staff?

God help us all when people think spoiling their ballots and allowing a lazy, cowardly, racist, misogynist to "lead" the country (do what he's told by Trump, billionaires & oligarchs) is the right way forward. Remember the Tories didn't ask any representatives of Feminist organisations to speak to the effect their plans for self ID would have on crime stats and more importantly women and girls' safety. I hope I don't come over too angry but I'm so utterly devastated and in despair over our future.