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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Boris Johnson comments on GRA - Q&A with Pink News

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stumbledin · 11/12/2019 16:39

Hardly worth noticing, but for info PN asked:

Why weren’t reforms to the Gender Recognition Act included in the Conservative manifesto?

We are carefully considering all responses to our consultation and the next steps. These will be announced in due course. It is vital that the next steps on any potential reform of the Gender Recognition Act are carefully planned and have the right backing, so they can have a positive impact on the trans community in the UK.

We had more than 100,000 responses to our consultation and have met with 140 organisations to ensure that we have taken into account views and concerns from all sides of the debate.

www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/12/10/general-election-stonewall-lgbt-foundation-consortium-letter-unite-government/

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SingingLily · 13/12/2019 12:23

WootMoggie, yes, however aGender was responsible for that disgraceful Civil Service guidelines document that a Mumnetter highlighted nearly a year ago. After action from MNers to their MPs and to the Conservative Ministers whose areas were directly affected, the document was abruptly withdrawn.

That tells me that the Civil Service had been off on a frolic of its own till elected politicians reined it in. Sharpish.

I speak as a former senior civil servant.

MoleSmokes · 14/12/2019 12:14

SingingLily - "Anyone who now has a Conservative MP - whether they voted that way or not - should be getting their say in now, before the TRAs do."

They were lobbying Boris as soon as he took over from May.

I wish all the GC-focussed organisations would get together in some sort of "Sex not Gender Alliance" ready to get a foot in these doors before Stonewall is already inside cosying up to politicians.

I was going to say "Women's Rights Alliance" but the issues transcend Women's Rights.

(Some unexpectedly valuable insights in this thread, BTW! I didn't bother to read it before the election - very glad I have now!)

Uncompromisingwoman · 14/12/2019 18:17

Pleased to see people mentioning the role of the civil service. There is considerable evidence that some of them have forgotten the Nolan principles of public life - www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-7-principles-of-public-life/the-7-principles-of-public-life--2

In particular section 2 - Integrity Holders of public office must avoid placing themselves under any obligation to people or organisations that might try inappropriately to influence them in their work. They must declare and resolve any interests and relationships

So how does this relate to civil servants who get awards from Stonewall or other groups that they belong to or are bribed feted by? I recall some discussion about a civil servant in the DfE who got a Stonewall award for removing women's toilets in the DfE and replacing them with mixed sex toilets? Given that Stonewall have openly campaigned to remove sex segregated spaces for women, surely his actions in accepting an award are in breach of the Nolan principles?

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