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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Stonewall continuing to push for self ID, now via a petition

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MrsSnippyPants · 07/12/2019 18:24

I can't see any way to see who has signed this, can anyone else?

"Improve the Gender Recognition Act 2004 to streamline and de-medicalise the process for legal gender recognition. Reform must remove the requirement for intrusive medical tests, introduce a simple administrative process based on the principle of self-determination, and provide recognition for under 18-year-olds and non-binary people. This will bring us in line with international best practice
Review the need for gender markers in official documents. Where markers are needed, introduce an 'X' category to enable non-binary people to be recognised"

www.stonewall.org.uk/come-out-voting?

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Michelleoftheresistance · 07/12/2019 18:30

How interesting they feel this agenda has fallen so far by the wayside they need to try a petition about it.

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 07/12/2019 18:42

We have already had a consultation about updating the gra.

Why don't stonewall pressure the government to release the results?

OhHolyJesus · 07/12/2019 18:54

I think as it's on their website and not 38 degrees or similar the comments will be internal and not published.

I'm so sick of Stonewall.

dayoftheclownfish · 07/12/2019 19:26

Yes, I wish they would fuck off. That's what happens when a charity has actually achieved most of its aims and should in disband/downsize. Mission creep.

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 07/12/2019 19:29

I am too. And Amnesty. Fuck knows how these previously ethical and respected organisations ended up here.

That's rhetorical. I know exactly how they ended up here. But it's terrible.

dementedma · 07/12/2019 19:31

Self ID is terrifying. Happy to be labelled a TERF if it means resisting this insidious erosion of women’s rights.

TheShoesa · 07/12/2019 21:46

Whenever I see terms like 'International Best Practice' in relation to things I don't agree with, I wonder who determines what 'best practice' is?

Is it meant to be a way of shaming people into not doing what is seen as 'best' - but again, as determined by whom?

TheShoesa · 07/12/2019 21:50

Sorry - shaming people who are not doing things according to 'best practice' into doing those things

OldCrone · 07/12/2019 21:59

Whenever I see terms like 'International Best Practice' in relation to things I don't agree with, I wonder who determines what 'best practice' is?

International Best Practice for 'gender identity' usually means the Yogyakarta Principles, which was a wish-list put together by a bunch of activists.

Of course, it can also mean what happens in Canada, where women in prison are regularly given the morning-after pill, and a person with male genitalia can take women to court in order to harass them for refusing to wax his lady balls.

Michelleoftheresistance · 08/12/2019 18:32

International Best Practice for 'gender identity' usually means the Yogyakarta Principles, which was a wish-list put together by a bunch of activists.

Quite.

We're an international bunch here, including all sorts of highly clever people. I vote we create the Yoghurt principles or the GoKart principles or something, which can be a wish-list put together by MNetters, about International Best Practice for Females.

Recognition of the Rules of Misogyny can be section A.

PermanentTemporary · 08/12/2019 18:43

It's really clear that there's a desperate need for trans-specific DV and homelessness shelters. If only Stonewall would take that cause on.

NotAssigned · 08/12/2019 19:29

Pmsl michelleoftheresistance

I'm up for helping draft the Yogurt Go Kart Principles.

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