Spanish Big Brother films contestant being raped then makes her watch it

[Clymene]

Sorry that is such a horrendous click bait title. But it's what they did. They watched her being raped while she was passed out drunk, then played the tape back to her in the diary room

uk.news.yahoo.com/spanish-big-brother-made-contestant-181044088.html

I hope she sues Endemol

It is horrific.

I know under UK law there's a limit to what you can contractually sign away - I don't think, for eg, if employers pressed you into signing a contract which committed you to perform behaviours that turned out to be criminal, that such a contract could be enforced.

I don't know whether Spanish law, or indeed EU law would be similar. Though as PP have noted, there is a problem in that under Spanish law, having sex with an unconscious woman who has not given consent doesn't count as rape.

I hope there's some way of her getting some form of redress. Any Spanish mumsnetters know how this is being reported (or not) in Spain?

No coercion or threat so I guess under Spanish law it's not even rape?

How wonderful other European countries are.

I am shocked.
So, just to be clear on the law, any man who has access to a sleeping or unconscious woman can have sex with her with no consequences??

So if a man drugs a woman then rapes her, he can only be convicted for drugging her, not of the rape?
Oh well. I know it's a predominately Catholic country, so that might be an element. Husband/wives. Old school.

@Trewser you aren't using a woman's rape to make a point about the EU are you? Because that would make you pretty repulsive. So I'll assume that's not what you're doing.

I am pointing out that some European countries have pretty archaic laws when it comes to women.

No coercion - surely being present while someone gets unconscious with drink is sufficient to be coercion?

It is absolutely not repulsive to be relieved that this would be a crime in the UK.

Well I think they were aware that she was comatose, yes. You don't have Big Brother there do you? There are cameras everywhere. They were watching and they knew she was unconscious. That is made perfectly clear in the article.

Although as Barbara has pointed out, raping an unconscious woman doesn't appear to be against the law in Spain

Spanish anger as five men acquitted of gang-raping teenager www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50257922

(Warning : graphic description of sexual violence)

I think the woman who was dragged through the Courts by Ched Evans would disagree @Trewser

I ask again, were you making a point about the EU?

I can’t.
I watched the footage of her being shown the video. She is asking for them to stop it and then asking for them to stop the audio. She then asks for something to take as her heart is racing. She asks for the, to open the door and let her out and the bloody man on speaker says that for hers and his own good this mustn’t leave the room. Still not opening the door she keeps asking and he is “not yet, you have to wait” as she keeps asking to please get the door open.
FML

www.elconfidencial.com/multimedia/video/television/programas-tv/2019-11-19/video-carlota-prado-gh-jose-maria-revolution-abuso-sexual-gran-hermano_2341648/

She is asking for them to stop it and then asking for them to stop the audio.

How much more could they try to traumatise her?

The way the audio man “super” talks is absolutely disgusting.
Classic way of male figure loving the control and authority enjoying a woman’s suffering.
Horrible.

Also, Telecinco is an absolutely disgusting channel. I was young when they started and it was constant shows of women being sexualised and all sorts.
Such a toxic culture. Disgusting stuff to be growing up with. I am not surprised.

I don't think I can bring myself to watch that Autumn. Just the description makes me feel sick

It appears that even under Spanish law this would be sexual assault. Would the film company be guilty of aiding and abetting?

@Clymene best not to I only posted it as evidence, pretty much what I said and no need to see the poor woman suffering.

Oh! Of course the video doesn’t show the crime, I couldn’t watch that and wouldn’t. It shows her watching it.

And the “Super” talking to her.

So I'll assume that's not what you're doing

Well you know what happens when you assume

The judge said she appeared to be concious at the beginning

she has had no help and support for two years and now has a pro rape judge

I ask again, were you making a point about the EU?

No, but you seem obsessed with me doing so!

So it is illegal? Is being tried, and the judge is pro-rape?

The judge is trying to say she hadn't passed out then, which belies here reaction on being shown the video, and they absolutely knew she was clueless, otherwise tuere wouldn't have been any mileage in showing it back to her.

Her reaction was horror, evidence she had not consented and was raped. Its abhorrent how this is still going on apace.

I'm very confused why people are talking about judges. This hasn't gone to trial and I don't even know if the victim has pressed charges.

I posted the link to the BBC article to show that, under Spanish law, rape of an unconscious woman is not considered rape.