Beaumont Society

[AnyOldPrion]

Is anyone here aware of the Beaumont Society? They describe themselves as “the largest and longest established transgender support group in the UK”.

They have a highly respectable air now. But in the past, my understanding is that it had little to do with transsexualism, but was a very private club for cross dressers.

I have tried to find out more, but it’s as if everything has been whitewashed.

Pencils commented on them on a different thread to say this:

”They went from a secret club for heterosexual transvestite men to a government supported ‘trans kids’ organisation that’s in our schools in a skip and a jump.”

It’s been rumoured for a while that there is influence high up in government or perhaps more likely, the civil service.

I find myself wondering if these things are linked.

The thing I really can't get my head around is the sheer obliviousness.

I don't get the impression that Alice actively means harm to women, there's just a complete failure to see women as people.

Wow - the bit about the Beaumont Society having "saved relationships" when it's clear that it means that it pressured women into not leaving their AGP husbands is quite chilling.

Just the complete certainty that it's the right and fair thing to do and all I can think about is the impact on the wives and families that I've read about on the Widows threads.

I don't get the impression that Alice actively means harm to women, there's just a complete failure to see women as people

That's just it though isn't it, Gender idenitiy means Women aren't people, but a stereotype group of feminine traits.

Wow. Important thread.

Men and their fetishes. Women's apparel is highly verboten so some develop a fetish and we end up with the concept of trans to legitimise it.

I don't get the impression that Alice actively means harm to women, there's just a complete failure to see women as people

That's exactly it. My AGP ex said "how can you say I'm misogynistic, I worship women" but no he didn't. He worshipped "sexy" femininity. He sure as hell did not worship his grandma, or his aunt, or Dorothy down the street who had a walker and three dachshunds.

So it's actually all AGP? No wonder this is so insanely difficult to argue despite the facts of biology. We're trying to put an aspect of male sexuality - not identity - back in its box. Tall order.

There will be international links too.

Have only just seen this thread and haven't read it properly, but it reminds me that there was an idea that somehow (the hive mind of mumsnet) should create one of those "family trees" that people used to do with rock bands to show how members moved from bands and influences.

It would be really good to have some sort of visual illustration of how so many of these groups are linked, or were active in setting up others. Their not so hidden networks are what give the trans lobby such power.

Does anyone know someone with the skills to do this. Or for all I know there is an off the shelve software packed that would do it.

Really important info here and with links to earlier discussions.

But a reminder that we have been watching and writing about them, but haven't had much impact on stopping the growth of this network of networks.

As I recall, stumbledin, there were a few threads like that a year or two ago. They were deleted tout de suite. Other venues might be more amenable...

Lord Beaumont started Beaumont Society - see bitsofbooksblog on Wordpress for more about his involvement with Albany Society and the birth of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) alongside Peter Righton notorious child abuser - righton trained social workers and residential care workers in children's homes in policy while being a leading light of PIE especially their prison visiting scheme to ensure convicted sexual offenders against children

They definitely used to be about transvestism- I had some training from them in the 90s and they were very clear on the matter and the distinction

here are their details on the charity commission website

apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/ContactAndTrustees.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=1135548&SubsidiaryNumber=0

Lord Beaumont started Beaumont Society

I can't find any evidence for this, although he was a patron for Press For Change. Albany Trust was purportedly a support org for homosexuals so Lord Beaumont's involvement would have been completely at odds with the Beaumont Society's 'no link to gayness' rules.

Alice says: And Olga, being Irish, came up with this brilliant idea, we'll call our organisation, which will be afilliated to Phi Pi Epsilon, The Beaumont Society after the Chevalier d'Eon de Beaumont, who was a French spy who had spied in Russia, in Imperial Russia, disguised as a woman. Quite possibly was intersex and there are lots of very interesting books about the Chevalier. Chevalier actually earned a living by sword fencing and the betting as to which gender the Chevalier was, was phenomenal, equivalent to millions of pounds when she died. That's another story.

That's just it though isn't it, Gender idenitiy means Women aren't people, but a stereotype group of feminine traits

It's as if women have been 'othered' to the point that they are simply objects/icons/symbols/idols. This is what happens in drag culture too.

Men and their fetishes. Women's apparel is highly verboten so some develop a fetish and we end up with the concept of trans to legitimise it

Utterly narcissistic, in the medical sense of the word, and highly manipulative.

That's exactly it. My AGP ex said "how can you say I'm misogynistic, I worship women

You hear that from gay men & drag queens too.........idolisation & abstraction - but not the reality of what it means to be female. The reality comes to be seen as repulsive.

www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/6971183/a-short-beaumont-history-the-beaumont-society

I’ve kept meaning to post this but took me ages to find it.