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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Art Museum surprise

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Poppyisa · 26/11/2019 03:32

I went to an art museum today, with my infant school age daughter. The exhibit was by a female scientist turned artist, celebrating women in STEM. A girls guide group was there on a field trip, as were lots of other parent and children.

Lots of hands on exhibits that’s kids especially enjoyed. One of them was this multi choice questionnaire. I hope you can read it. I wasn’t prepared to answer this and I saw a couple of other parents looking equally baffled. FYI other questions were on climate change, food production. I’d like to follow up with the Art Museum, but all I can come up with is WTF!

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Poppyisa · 26/11/2019 16:08

Thanks for all the responses, and for those who were able to eloquently compose a response.

This is the museum
www.unlv.edu/barrickmuseum

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IfNot · 26/11/2019 16:26

What would the world be like if you could choose to be a girl or a boy or both or neither, depending on how you feel about your body?
Well. I guess if that were possible then female artists could just identify as male and be properly represented in the Tate galleries (as artists that is, not as naked flesh)..
Tate hypocrisy from 2018

ChattyLion · 26/11/2019 16:34

Sorry but even the absolute shittiest local newsagent where I grew up would never have displayed their porn and bondage mags at children’s height.

This page on the Tate Modern website made me laugh:

‘See it from their perspective
Get down to your child’s height and see what they see. The change in eye-level might make you think and feel differently
We encourage young people to explore art and idea (sic) to take ownership of the gallery.’

www.tate.org.uk/visit/tate-modern/visit-tate-modern-family

ErrolTheDragon · 26/11/2019 16:39

Ah, I see the East Gallery at that museum has a large picture of a faceless 'WOMXN'.Hmm

KatvonHostileExtremist · 26/11/2019 16:48

What expertise has gendered intelligence got that transgender trend hasn't? TT got nominated for a prestigious science award!! Watchful waiting is hateful now?

I really would love to see these utter wankers sued.

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EmpressLesbianInChair · 26/11/2019 16:58

Repulsive.

I bet it hasn't occurred to these idiots that under Stonewall definitions, no women fitting the definition of 'cisgender' would work in STEM. Hmm

Speaking of Transgender Trend though, they've brought out a new children's book called My Body Is Me! to counter this misogynist rubbish and it's just in time for Christmas Grin

LucretiaBourgeois · 26/11/2019 17:01

I was at Tate Britain recently and one of the things they have is a number of pictures tagged as part of "A Queer Walk through British Art", where you're invited to have a look online for comments about the works from an LGBTQ++ perspective.

The one that interested me was Romney's "Mrs Johnstone and her Son (?)" which depicts a mother holding a very pretty child with golden curls, wearing a white satin dress. I looked up the commentary expecting that the child would be being retrospectively transed, but instead there was this rather more nuanced message:

The ambiguity of infants in eighteenth-century pictures offers a challenge to modern norms. The clothes and hairstyles we see now on toddlers tend to ensure their assigned genders are instantly legible. In Romney’s day, unisex frocks were standard for children under five. That historical, all-gender wardrobe is a startling reminder that surface details such as ringlets, low-cut bodices, frills and pink bows have no natural link with gender. (my bolding)

Leaving aside "assigned genders", I wondered if that wasn't a wee bit t*rfy?

ChattyLion · 26/11/2019 17:33

Its nice that the ‘Modern norms’ they are challenging here are are the sexists’ and genderists’ stereotypes of what clothing constitutes a person’s ‘masculinity’ or ‘femininity’ Smile
www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/romney-mrs-johnstone-and-her-son-n01667
He looks comfy in his outfit

LiterallyProblematic · 26/11/2019 17:33

Also wtaf is this at the British Museum? Genuinely what is the child holding up on this picture and what relevance is it to RSE?!!!!!!

www.britishmuseum.org/learn/schools/ages-14-16/school-workshop-relationship-and-sex-education

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