Well at least the press is reporting about free speech vs trans activism now

[Ummmmcake]

www.theguardian.com/society/2019/nov/20/police-transgender-rules-breach-right-to-free-speech-court-told

Good

The other Owen won't be happy that this is in the Guardian.

He’d better backtrack to the right side of history then.

Puuull

If the other Owen attempts a reverse ferret I will be laughing so bloody hard.

There's been a definite change at the Guardian over the last few months. They used to be full on TWAW, stunning and brave, no debate, it never happens.

I think it was around the time of rubber-wank-at-children's-charity guy/Munroe Bergdorf is and ideal children's safety worker. They were all out full support, "only a hateful T*RF could disagree" for the first couple of days, then went oddly quiet once the truth started to emerge.
There's been some almost reasonable reporting since then - even OJ has been told to keep his mouth shut.

AFAI remember, the original hate crime legislation went something like
''its a hate crime if the average person could reasonably perceive hate as a motive.''
Which made sense. The new wording it completely ridiculous.

Can someone explain this to me? So the Met website says:

A hate incident is any incident which the victim, or anyone else, thinks is based on someone’s prejudice towards them because of their race, religion, sexual orientation, disability or because they are transgender.

So by these rules surely all of these sentences are hate incidents:

• "Believing in God is stupid"
• "Homosexuality is against the will of God"
• "Muslims who promote Sharia law are misogynists"
• "Only Christians are going to heaven, anyone who believes in a different religion is a sinner and going to hell"

Have I got this right?

But "kill the terfs" doesn't count as apparently it's not a hate crime if it's against women.

A reasonable person might consider 'kill the terfs' to be a homophobic 'hate incident' given how often lesbians are targeted.

But there appear to be so few reasonable persons among the members of the police force.