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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The BBC isn’t biased, is it?

26 replies

DefinitelyNotMe · 17/11/2019 06:00

I am just going to leave this here. What to look out for on LGBT issues in the forthcoming election.

OP posts:
BeMoreMagdalen · 17/11/2019 07:26

Yeah. No assumptions made in that at all. All fair and totally above board.Hmm

TheShoesa · 17/11/2019 07:32

I've just watched that and it does raise good points that I will look out for - just not in the way that the video intends!

I look forward to viewing the BBCs similar video guides for Age, Sex, Race, Disability, Marriage and Civil Partnership, Pregnancy and Maternity, Sexual Orientation and Religion and Belief.

donquixotedelamancha · 17/11/2019 07:33

Holy fuck. That's bad.

slipperywhensparticus · 17/11/2019 07:34

A smidge in the way that (as a rule) dogs are furry four legged creatures

AnyOldPrion · 17/11/2019 07:36

They missed a trick, opening that can. Should have been full of worms...

JellySlice · 17/11/2019 07:46

"Reforming the GRA has nothing to do with trans people accessing bathrooms. That's a right protected under the Equality Act."

Strictly speaking, correct. The Equality Act protects trans people from discrimination. So a male person may not be prevented from accessing the men's 'bathroom' because of how he presents. According to the EA, Miranda, Caitlin and Pips have the right to access men's facilities, and preventing this would be a hate crime. Similarly, Buck and Steven's right to access female facilities is protected by the EA.

Somehow I don't think this is what the BBC intends us to understand from that statement.

And what's with this "bathrooms", anyway? We are not Americans! Use the correct words for clarity. It's pussyfooting around 'rude' words like SEX that is partly responsible for the pervasive creep of this mess. Bathrooms are private, domestic spaces, not a place where people are vulnerable among strangers. Saying bathroom instead of toilet, or facilities, or services, is Rohypnol.

testing987654321 · 17/11/2019 07:54

How very strange. I watched the NHS one as well. It's got the same format, I don't think either of them are explaining the issues neutrally.

I think the BBCs job is to analyse policies and explain what effect the policies are likely to have. Including differing opinions where different outcomes are likely.

It's not to tell us what "to look out for".

ResistSexism · 17/11/2019 08:04

Thanks OP.

You prompted me to sign back up to MN and to complain to the BBC. I'm so sick of this.

MoltenLasagne · 17/11/2019 08:18

Wow - I watched both of the videos and then looked for the rest of the series and couldn't find any. Are there no other areas that the BBC thinks needs a questionably motivated video on?

OhHolyJesus · 17/11/2019 08:47

Ironically at the bottom of that page it has a link to "why you can trust the BBC".

Trust us, we tell the truth, our truth, not your truth, our truth is better.

Melioration · 17/11/2019 08:59

BBC, the media wing of Stonewall. Hmm

LangCleg · 17/11/2019 09:17

JFC. Well, that's today's complaint email to the BBC sorted. Anyone else sick to the back teeth of writing them?!

BoneAppleTeaa · 17/11/2019 09:26

Watched this clip this morning with my husband, it’s terrible and incredibly biased. I’m not holding my breath on other equalities videos.

TheShoesa · 17/11/2019 09:33

That will be the tone of my email to the BBC - where are the others, for balance and impartiality.

FemaleAndLearning · 17/11/2019 09:49

So what is dog whistling? I've heard it a few times but u sure if it's meaning.

I agree this is very biased and certainly a bit misleading over the Equality Act and 'bathrooms'.

Big issues for women and girls rape convictions are down, the Domestic Violence Bill has fallen due to proroguing of parliament. Sexual assaults on girls in schools is on the increase. Harassment and abuse online....

I'm sure we could come up with 4 good points for them to make a women's video.

OldCrone · 17/11/2019 10:56

The BBC is in favour of self-identification of legal sex with reform of the GRA (sounds like bias to me).

Anyone who advocates for self-identification of legal sex is advocating for men in women's prisons.

This is from the MoJ's new policy on transgender prisoners The Care and Management of Individuals who are Transgender (Implementation Date: 31 October 2019).

all individuals who are transgender must be initially allocated to part of the estate which matches their legally recognised gender

This will form the basis of my complaint to the BBC about their bias.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 17/11/2019 11:22

The BBC is in favour of self-identification of legal sex with reform of the GRA

The BBC shouldn't be openly in favor of anything. That's not their job.

BeMoreMagdalen · 17/11/2019 11:58

Female a 'dogwhistle' is a negative term for a word or phrase designed to tip a person reading off that the subject under discussion is loaded with (often bigoted) meaning.

It's meant to dismiss any of the content without needing to engage in what has been said. It was used initially as I remember, in dealing with racists who might use terms like English people when they mean white people and so on, as a means of rallying people who understood what they meant. So TRAs will call 'women's rights' or 'safeguarding children' a dogwhistle, because they don't think we really mean that, they think we're actually want 'genocide of transpeople' (I wish I was making that up or exaggerating).

Ironically, the term 'dogwhistle' has become something of a dogwhistle itself, because it's often a signal that someone doesn't want to address an argument but is instead content to simply smear the idea without examining it.

koshkat · 17/11/2019 12:16

They missed a trick, opening that can. Should have been full of worms...

Indeed.

What a load of hogwash that was. the BBC is so fucking biased it is untrue. And when he rattled on about the justice gap all I could think about was rape statistics...but no one gives a fuck about that do they? Bloody appalling from the BBC.

Goosefoot · 17/11/2019 12:26

The BBC shouldn't be openly in favor of anything. That's not their job.

Gosh, yes. I don't care in national public media are taking the same view I do, they are supposed to take a fairly neutral perspective that encompasses at least mainstream views and really ought to carefully examine perspectives from major populations even if they are less mainstream.

What is wrong with journalism these days?

koshkat · 17/11/2019 12:30

Woke.

NotAnotherFeckingMuftiDay · 17/11/2019 13:09

This comes across as a party political broadcast by Stonewall. Shock

CeridwenTheWitch · 17/11/2019 14:42

Yes absolutely biased.

I agree with another poster about the term 'dogwhistle.' They've basically decided that anyone saying certain words or phrases must be ignored, slandered and discounted. Included in their ever growing list of apparent 'dogwhistles' is:

Women's rights
Safeguarding

And ironically, they have now made the term 'dogwhistle' a 'dogwhistle' in itself, to represent an intolerant person who is against women's rights and child safeguarding, and pro things like putting men in women's prisons.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 17/11/2019 14:49

They've just told the nation that wanting to protect women and children is problematic. Do you hear yourselves, BBC?

Bearsinmotion · 17/11/2019 15:07

So, so many issues. What does “pro parent” even mean?