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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Prince Andrew 'let the side down'

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Gingerkittykat · 16/11/2019 03:48

Here's a clip from Prince Andrew's interview where he regrets remaining friends with Epstein after his conviction because he let the royal family down. Not a single mention of Epstein's victims and how they were let down.

He also does not recall meeting Virginia Giuffre, despite the photos saying otherwise.

I can't believe he did any interview in the first place, but surely he is digging an even bigger hole for himself here.

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MockersthefeMANist · 16/11/2019 10:15

He's not a dimwit. He qualified as a helicopter pilot. That requires tons of swotting and revision and three-dimensional situational awareness, brain in full multitasking mode such as few people can manage.

Jux · 16/11/2019 12:17

He was always rather repugnant, and dim about how people viewed him. Clearly, he hasn't learnt much.

I second what pinkprosseco said. Face it properly, you nasty little twerp. Show us a bit of real "tendency to be too honourable". What an odious phrase.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 16/11/2019 12:20

'Too honourable'. That's about the last of this creep's worries.

CarolCutrere · 16/11/2019 12:22

The Queen and Prince Philip have produced four very disfunctional children

That's very unfair to Princess Anne.

flapjackfairy · 16/11/2019 12:28

Yes what has Anne done ?

koshkat · 16/11/2019 14:15

Always rather liked Zara Phillips and think that Princess Anne is one of the good uns.

TiddlerontheRoof · 16/11/2019 14:18

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CarolCutrere · 16/11/2019 14:35

I like the way Anne did not accept any Ruritarian style titles for either of her husbands or her children. Her children also seemed able to get married without incurring vast public expense.

Re Andrew and that photograph,his team has been trying to discredit it. I thought their attempts were pathetic and why take so long to raise the fact it might have been photo shopped but the more I look at I'm now wondering if it does look odd. I can't decide if that is a genuine feeling or if fake doubts have been sown. It surely can't be that difficult for Virginia Roberts to provide information about its provenance.

Gingerkittykat · 16/11/2019 14:38

It looks like Charles also had a friendship with a sex offender, although he at least had the decency to say his thoughts were with the victims of abuse and there are no allegations he ever abused someone.

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MockersthefeMANist · 16/11/2019 15:50

Only black mark in Anne's book is her enthusiastic support for fox-hunting, badger-gassing, and in all liklihood mole-strangling.

merrymouse · 16/11/2019 16:18

I kick myself for on a daily basis because it was not something that was becoming of a member of the royal family, and we try and uphold the highest standards and practices and I let the side down, simple as that

He is on a different planet. He appears to believe he is in trouble because he didn't meet the 'highest standards of the royal family', as though his actions would be acceptable if only he weren't a royal.

Qcng · 16/11/2019 16:35

There are probably more illegitimate royal children than we are aware of.

zanahoria · 16/11/2019 17:17

" Are royals really above the law? It’s outrageous if it’s true"

arguably the Queen is but the rest of the gang have no special status

and he. certainly is not above US law

If as he so repugnantly put it "he let the side down" I hope Emily asks him what sanction he should bear.

Even if she does not. grill him I think he will be given enough rope to hang himself. He looks thoroughly incapable of answering any question without further incriminating himself. I was cringing just watching ths clips. The man is a buffoon and completely out of his depth. It beggars believs he has agreed to this. Is it sheer stupidity on his part or have Royal advisors pushed him into it to hang him out to dry?

atankofskunks · 16/11/2019 19:46

The woman in the background on that photo is Robert Maxwell's daughter. Is that right? What has she said about the photo?

zanahoria · 16/11/2019 19:56

I would not trust her, dodgy as her dad.

MockersthefeMANist · 16/11/2019 20:20

Ghilasne Maxwell, Epstein's (adult) girlfriend and pimp to the rich and rather-not-be-famous.

She did a plea bargain in the USA, but I see no reason why we can't pull her in for trafficking under-18s.

MockersthefeMANist · 16/11/2019 20:22

...unless she has an address book with some interesting names in it/

katseyes7 · 16/11/2019 20:26

To quote Mandy Rice Davies, "Well, he would say that, wouldn't he

Never mind about it "being unbecoming for a member of the Royal Family to stay with a paedophile."
Anyone with a shred of decency wouldn't stay with a known paedophile. Doing that means you countenance it.
l'd love to hear what a body language expert thinks of that interview.

katseyes7 · 16/11/2019 20:28

Apologies, l missed out the quote marks on the end of that first line on my previous post. lt should have said "To quote Mandy Rice Davies, "Well, he would say that, wouldn't he?"

Bluerussian · 16/11/2019 20:41

He certainly did let the side down but I expect many members of his family have let the side down at different times, we just don't always hear about it!

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 17/11/2019 10:00

Just saw the Woking Pizzaland stuff. That's his attempt at a defense, is it? That he's so spoiled an disconnected from reality that taking his child out for pizza would be a bizarre event that he'd remember forever?

AnotherNightWatering · 17/11/2019 10:07

I didn't watch the interview, but I'm confused, as I don't really see that going for a pizza in Woking is mutually exclusive with going out later to a nightclub in London.

fuzzymoon · 17/11/2019 10:20

He also didn't say that he regretted it personally which I found interesting.

Did he think the interview was about him as a royal and about his job as a royal.

Does he not regret his actions ?

Does he think his feelings are separate and of no consequence to the public .

That staying with a convicted paedophille was the honourable thing to do as he was of a certain business status (I guess)

There was and still is an elite that are perceived to be untouchable. That there is almost a parallel universe of rules and etiquette.

He lives in a stick up for your chums no matter what world that is no longer there. (Look at the MP that lied in court to his friend re rape case it didn't end well for him )

He is incredibly ignorant and arrogant if that's the case.

He can't show any remorse to the victims as he has not shown regret for his actions.

He may believe that as the girl was of legal age that he did nothing wrong.

He is in such a messed up reality it's incredible.

MockersthefeMANist · 17/11/2019 10:32

Oh. Dear.

He appears to be suggesting that the person in the photo is a lookey-likey, 'because I never wear that kind of shirt.'

And he knows the flat but never went upstairs. When shown the photo: 'Oh yes, that's upstairs...'

Scriptwriters for "The Crown" taking eager notes.

2BthatUnnoticed · 18/11/2019 03:56

“I did not have sexual relations with that woman” (- Bill Clinton).

= I did not have PIV sex with her (“only” a blow job).

“I have no recollection of ever meeting that lady” (- Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor).

= I cannot categorically deny that I met and had sex with this lady in case more evidence of my doing so comes to light.

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