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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Candidates are out, so now I have to make my decision

27 replies

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 15/11/2019 12:32

My constituency is a super-safe seat, so my vote won't change anything unless there is an electoral upset on a scale we've never seen before. So I have the luxury of being able to vote entirely on principle.

My options are:

Labour - sitting MP. Not in Momentum, pro-Remain, has voted against Brexit at every opportunity, good reputation as constituency MP - all plus points. But she's on the Labour front bench and has drunk the Kool Aid on gender issues. Was not impressed when I met her to discuss this. So on a personal level I don't think I can vote for her and I am very bothered by Labour's abject failure to provide decent opposition on everything since Corbyn came to power, especially Brexit, by the antisemitism and by their appalling failure to grasp the threat gender ideology poses to women's rights. I just can't see Corbyn in the role of PM, representing the UK on the world stage. So I think that's a no.

Tory - would rather cut my own arm off and eat it raw than vote Tory.

Brexit - see above, with one of the legs thrown in for good measure.

LibDem - nope. If they wouldn't accept me as a member because of holding gender critical views, they can manage without my vote.

Greens - nope. I am not a non-man.

So that leaves me with an Independent candidate about whom I know nothing and the Alliance for Green Socialism. I've looked at their manifesto from 2017. Promisingly, it says absolutely nothing about gender except using it once where they clearly mean sex, but they do have quite a few pledges on women's rights where I think they do mean women. They won't win, and I probably wouldn't like it if they did, but if they've eschewed identity politics that might be the clincher for me.

I'm hoping for leaflets at some point so I can find out something about the Independent. If he focusses exclusively on local issues and seems sane, I might vote for him.

What a position to be in. I've never felt like this before at a general election. Sad Angry

What's everybody else doing?

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Lysistrataknowsherstuff · 15/11/2019 12:36

My constituency sounds similar to yours, except it's a safe conservative seat. I'm emailing all candidates with a list of questions - based on the WPUK questions but with stats and situations thrown in - to see what they come back with. I have absolutely no idea how to track the independent candidate down though, all I have is his name!

EmpressLesbianInChair · 15/11/2019 12:39

Have a look at whocanivotefor.co.uk, it lists cadidates and contact details.

Grimbles · 15/11/2019 12:44

We have a Tory, LibDem, Labour and Monster Raving Loony.

MRL it is then!

HollowTalk · 15/11/2019 12:46

When you say it's a super-safe seat, then who is likely to get in?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 15/11/2019 12:55

Labour.

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 15/11/2019 12:58

Majority even bigger than I remembered. 35000 in 2017.

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DodoPatrol · 15/11/2019 14:38

We only have the Cons, Labs and ultrawoke LibDems here. I dream of a nice Monster Raving Loony candidate

FilthyBiscuit · 15/11/2019 14:46

Mine is a close race between the Tories and Lib Dem. Lib Dem are in at the moment. I'm having to chose between Brexit and Women's Rights. What a position to be in.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 15/11/2019 14:48

I was so hoping for the Monster Raving Loony party! I used to scoff at that party that wanted to teach everybody to levitate. I'd vote for one of them at the moment. Count Binface seems nice on Twitter. I'd vote for him if I lived in Uxbridge.

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BarbaraStrozzi · 15/11/2019 15:03

I too was hoping for a MRL candidate.

My options are:
Labour (sitting on huge majority, v. woke), Green (non-man... Lib Dems have stood aside), Conservative, Independent (n'owt much in the way of information about him, seems he can't even be bothered to put together a web page), Brexit and UKIP. At least the EDL types who stood in the council election seem to have given up, and I feel a certain amusement in watching the hard Brexit vote split itself!

Spoilt ballot paper here I come?

thatdamnwoman · 15/11/2019 15:13

I note that the Lib Dem candidate for my constituency is the same gay man who, as prospective candidate, phoned me earlier this year to solicit my support and told me that of course he believes TWAW. The previous Lib Dem candidate was an older man who was GC and outraged about what was happening within the party.

TheRattleBag · 15/11/2019 17:15

I've just tried emailing my prospective MPs using the details on the Who Can I Vote For? website.

Out of 5, one is missing an email address (Lib Dem) and two have bounced back as undeliverable (Brexit and Labour).

So my mails have only actually gone to the Conservative and Green candidates! It's bloody annoying.

OhHolyJesus · 15/11/2019 17:22

My choice is I have no choice

Tory vs non GC parties

I'm spoiling my ballot and it makes me feel a bit sick to be honest.

MyVisionsComeFromSoup · 15/11/2019 17:56

I'm in a safe Tory seat (although potentially less safe than it was, as we have yet another parachuted-in candidate, and we voted out some local council Tories last year), and am delighted to discover my choices include a Monster Raving Loony candidate Smile. So that's my vote sorted, as the other choices are Con, Lab, LD, Green and an ex-UKIP independent.

MockersthefeMANist · 15/11/2019 18:04

The man who stood as 'Lord Buckethead' in the 2017 general election has changed his name - and will take on Boris Johnson.

Comedian Jon Harvey, 39, from Lewisham, south east London, will stand against the Prime Minister in Uxbridge and South Ruislip as Count Binface - two years after he gained 249 votes against Theresa May.

He said he decided to drop the Buckethead name, which originated from a cult 1984 US film called Hyperspace, after a copyright tussle with the film's creator.

But he has a challenger - as the Monster Raving Loony Party have now swiped the name Lord Buckethead for themselves. And they're facing Count Binface in the very same seat.

The Count, who gave his age as 5,965 galactic years, confirmed tonight that he will stand on a ticket promising to bring back Ceefax.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/general-election-man-who-stood-20881171

Catmaiden · 15/11/2019 21:34

Ultra safe Tory seat here, who I would never vote for. Green, Lib Dem Labour. I'm stuffed :(

Deathraystare · 16/11/2019 17:16

We've got Green, Labour, Brexit, Liberal and Conservative & Unionist. Wish we had the Raving loonies! Fuck it!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 23/11/2019 13:52

Update: I've had no election literature as yet. However, browsing on Twitter just now I've discovered that the Green candidate in my constituency has supported the WPUK manifesto. This could make a difference to how I vote.

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WomanBornNotWorn · 23/11/2019 14:20

I was considering Women Equality Party until they told me they're in the TWAW camp.

I think it's a choice between Labour and Green for me. Not that I like any of them.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 23/11/2019 14:29

It's very tricky, isn't it, WomanBornNotWorn. I only feel free to vote for the candidate, not the party (if that's what I end up doing) because I'm so certain my current MP will get re-elected no matter what I vote.

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OvaHere · 23/11/2019 14:45

I have a huge range this year. Tory, Labour, LD, Brexit, UKIP, Yorkshire Party and one Independent.

It's a close seat between C&L, the latter taking the seat in 2017 by about 400 votes.

Labour would always be my first choice so I'm keeping an eye on the manifesto pledge and what stems from that. My MP though is very TWAW.

Yorkshire Party is currently my back up option, I can't find anything on what the independent candidate is standing for.

It sucks. I feel v pressured because I don't want to let the Tories back in but I'm so angered by the responses I got from my Labour MP about women's rights and safeguarding of children.

OvaHere · 23/11/2019 14:46

*also Green candidate - forgot them.

MummBraTheEverLeaking · 23/11/2019 15:13

Safe Tory seat here too, and only have a choice of Tories (eurgh), Labour (until they state absolutely what a woman is I'm concerned GC women are now being told what they want to hear, then they can loophole round it for penises if they get in power) Lib Dem (was going to vote for them but they don't want me so fuck em), Green (I'm not a non man thanks) and Brexit (Never. Ever.) Whoop de do.

I'd love a Monster Raving Loony or Count Binface at this rate.

scarecrowfeet · 23/11/2019 15:13

I live in the new speaker's constituency. Only the greens are standing and an independent who has added 'Brexit' to his name by deed poll.

FloraGreysteel · 23/11/2019 15:17

Oh dear, all I have to choose from are the major three parties and Brexit. I'm in a Labour safe seat.

What's the bloody point? I have never not voted in an election: I don't know what to do.

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