Lesbian rejected by another lesbian because she doesn't accept trans women can be lesbians

[stumbledin]

The trans brainwashing has now gone so far that being a gender critical lesbian means you will be labelled transphobic by other lesbians who wont socialise with you let alone date you!!!

From a thread on reddit:

"I finally got around to confessing my crush to her she tells me that a trans girl has a crush on ME and that she feels uncomfortable dating me because of trans girls said crush (since they are friends). I told her I'm not into trans girls, I'm into her, and she said that she had no idea I was transphobic and that I needed to "reevaluate my values" because the trans girl was "just as much of a woman as she was" and other bs."

www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/ds6u73/it_finally_happenedi_was_shamed_for_not_wanting/

More evidence (if needed) of lesbian erasure by the trans ideology - and by (some) lesbians.

I’m unsure how this is an example of lesbian erasure?

It depends whether you accept that the definition of a lesbian is a woman who is sexually atracted to other biological women.

So if (some) lesbians are now saying being a lesbian means you can also be a lesbian a sexually attracted to someone born male, who may or may not have a penis, then the actual meaning of being lesbian is being erased.

In sorry if I offend but its late and I'm easily confused but want to learn.

So a female who only dates other females is being called out for not wanting to date a male who wishes they were female.
At the same time a female who only dates other females doesn't understand that she doesn't want to date a male who wants to be female, therefore bypassing the whole "Innie outie" business

Lesbians don't want dick. End of.

Sorry we must have been typing at the same time.
I was confused enough as a child as a family friend was a lesbian but was in a relationship with a post op trans male to female. I talked myself round in circles on that one as I decided that legally they could marry. I'm old this was a long time before they changed the law.

I don't know that it's new that some lesbians accept the gender narrative.

It may feel particularly annoying, but I don't think it does anyone any favours to pretend as if there is some sort of universal lesbian or female perspective on the status o trans women. It's just not the case, and people have every right to come to their own conclusions, and not date those who don't share their values.

Yes, sadly it's lesbian erasure and homophobic. The younger generation who have grown up with trans ideology have been shamed into thinking it's wrong to define your own sexuality.

For centuries its has been accepted that:
Lesbian = female homosexual, attracted only to females
Homosexual/Gay = male homosexual, attracted only to males
Bisexual = attracted to both sexes
Heterosexual = attracted only to the opposite sex

But they've tried to redefine it by gender which would technically means anyone who isn't bisexual gets shamed for having a 'genital preference.'

I think it's important that everyone is free to define their own sexuality and decide who they feel comfortable and happy dating free of shame and any sort of coercion.

Yes, this is not new. See the virulent response from some lesbians to the Get The L Out protest at London Pride in 2018. There was a rush of L with the T hashtags etc. Of course women who call themselves lesbians yet fancy and date males who claim to be women are actually bisexual but cannot bring themselves to admit it, as they are very attached to their lesbian identity (and it would mean them admitting that they do not really actually believe the nonsense that is the dogma 'transwomen are women')

I think one needs to distinguish between the abstract and the concrete case here:

Yes, on the one hand the general notion that a lesbian needs to be into trans women to be datable is highly problematic. That's in general.

In the concrete case at hand, however, lest we forget: yes, anybody has the right to reject anybody else for any reason. This would include petty politics, feeling uncomfortable about dating someone a friend of any gender also fancies, yes, trans status, ... there's just no right to romantic/sexual attention from someone. That's how this mess came about in the first place!!!

I think not dating someone because you have very different politics is one thing.

But to say you are a lesbian, but then say that in effect you dont believe in lesbianism (sexual attraction between biological women) becase a trans woman is a woman which could mean being sexually active with someone with a dick is totally different.

The only thing that might be vaguely the same is if a woman dates a man who says women aren't fully functioning human beings and that is why men have power.

All these words and lived reality that are being erased by people who are determined not only to erase women's rights, but by co-opting gender identity as being the same as sex, are saying men aren't the oppressors of women.

This is like turkeys voting for christmas.

But no one is entitled to sex and people are allowed to be homosexual.

OMG. sorry that seems to be all this gay second wave radical feminist can summon up at the moment. I think if I said more I would be accused of something or other.

I wasn't going to comment again but nobody is saying it is about being entitled to sex - that's a male justification for prostitution.

I am talking about someone saying they are a lesbian, but then immediately negating the reality of lesbianism by saying a trans women can be a lesbian.

The biological reality is you cant change sex, and as lesbianism is about same sex attraction, only born females can be lesbian.

stumble agree fully.

But they've tried to redefine it by gender which would technically means anyone who isn't bisexual gets shamed for having a 'genital preference.'

But being Bi is no good either, from what I've read, as then it may be suspected that you see yourself as being in a straight relationship rather than a lesbian relationship, if you were a woman in a relationship with a transwoman.

Oh goddess. All this stuff makes my head hurt.

Bisexuals get told they are being mean and restrictive by only dating males and females and not all the other genders.

Pan sexual is the preferred replacement term.

I can't say if i would date any of the other genders or not, but suspect I would find obsessing over what label to apply yourself and then policing everybody elses reactions to those labels unattractive.

I suspect that makes me wrong in some way to somebody.

OP, this is nothing new. I know lesbians who've ended relationships over the last few years because their partner is pro-trans. In fact I'm going out tomorrow night with a group that includes a woman who recently left a three-year relationship because she's GC and could no longer ignore the fact that her partner is woke. Or stupid, as she will doubtless say tomorrow night. I think the realisation that your partner is in denial of basic science and isn't actually a feminist can be very difficult to overcome.