Fair Cop explain upcoming Judicial Review

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Please access the podcast on the Fair Cop website - right hand corner menu has podcasts - I’m having a little trouble with the link . Sarah and Anna explain the significance of the JR and how unusual it is to be granted one . So someone, somewhere can see this is important to our democracy . Also clear that the JR is costing around 200k - please donate if you see this as our major chance to turn this around .
Enjoy the podcast , it’s calm and professional . Also it is fascinating .

Bloody nora, spero, I didn't even notice that was you on the thread! Sorry! Must read threads more closely!

Thanks - bloody amazing work!

The glitch on access to the podcast has been sorted - iPhone now fine x

Spero- will definitely aim to be at RCJ on 20th with a placard. Can’t stay all day but will come and lend support.

Thanks for fixing, just started listening to the podcast now

There's a (frankly terrifying) update on twitter.
twitter.com/WeAreFairCop/status/1195287091657228289?s=19

1. The College of Policing say in their skeleton argument that ‘Trans women are not women’ is NOT a political statement but is rather de facto evidence of Hate. As is implying that women do not have beards.

1. The CoP also take the position that an enquiry into whether a rape committed by a transwoman should be entered as a Male or Female crime is also not a relevant political question but is also a de facto signifier of Hate.

1. The CoP state that any criticism of the Meraids CEO in relation to the transing of her child is de facto evidence of Hate. As is questioning the policy of transitioning children.

That’s bonkers. Presumably they would record a hate incident for asking questions?!

But none of these things are hate crimes mind you. No hate crime without an actual crime in the first place.

Presumably they are a public body - what about the Human Rights Act ? It is very dangerous territory if they are telling people that asking certain questions is hate. Who are they to determine the emotions that people hold? Maybe the questions were not asked in hate but in concern. Are COP now in charge of classifying emotions ?!

The scope for tyranny in the police's claim is terrifying. The podcast was very clear. If Fair Cop don't succeed we will end up in a society where pointing out that human beings can't change sex qualifies as a hate incident.

I've been tottering along with poor health on a teensy weensy income for some time. Have just been awarded PIP at the top level which makes me feel positively affluent so was thrilled to be able to make a (very small) donation to this important case.

Oho! A red flag phrase has appeared on the Fair Cop thread: I seek information and clarification.

Daily it might be helpful if you expanded on the contents of the blogs in question? Were they defamatory? Inciting hatred or violence? Obscene? Or were they stating biological facts?

So defamatory, harassment and malicious communication?

Is one thread not enough for you, Apple?

As far as I know,
The basis of your accusations and defamation is
As far as I know,
Are you serious?

DailyApple:

please provide solid - i.e. believable and provable links that we can read for ourselves. You have not done so, as yet.

DailyApple, we require evidence.

Can provide solid evidence for your allegations?

It's been nearly three hours now since:

DailyApple Sun 01-Dec-19 00:27:45

Still no evidence.

Thanks for the thread bounce to remind me to listen to the podcast.

No idea what the accusations are about, but a cage somewhere has clearly been rattled.

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Seeing vague and unsubstantiated accusations being made against a woman I respect makes me think she's doing a good job and causing worry to people who need worrying.

Not a shred of evidence produced, as usual. Not a single link, not even an unconvincing one.

someone has a big problem with Spero don't they? and is bumping threads to try to bad mouth her. reminds me of the treatment Posie gets.

bolshy women really bring out the desire to squash them in some people don't they?

NOT a political statement but is rather de facto evidence of Hate.

How can this be happening? Who regulates the CoP? What laws are they using to promote this tautology? Who is directing these policies? Harry’s case is absolutely critical because, inter alia, it has escalated this to the mainstream media. Freedom of speech is facing an existential threat. It is quite extraordinary

creepster you misread the post: ‘as far as I know’ referred to whether police should be involved in defamation. They were admitting the posts were defamatory just didn’t think the police should be involved.

But a good thread to boost: I recommend anyone reading this post read Sarah’s contemporaneous tweets from the trial. They show not only how outrageous the CoP position but also how flimsy the evidence is to back this up.