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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"There are deviants who are male and many who are female"

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ChipOnMyOvary · 07/11/2019 00:35

Fascinating report on trans in UK prisons. No bias whatsoever.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/46703/1/what-its-like-to-be-transgender-in-the-uk-prison-system%3famp=1

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emerencemaybehopeful · 07/11/2019 04:16

No bias at all.

I love it when someone acknowledges risk and then immediately starts explaining why it's irrelevant to everything.

NotBadConsidering · 07/11/2019 04:29

This is Sarah Baker who features throughout that article:

transcrimeuk.com/2017/10/30/alan-baker-1/

Here is an astounding Twitter thread with some other offenders. Not just Karen White.

mobile.twitter.com/historywoman/status/1191453438825181186

ChipOnMyOvary · 07/11/2019 08:24

That twitter thread is just that, astounding.

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Driechdrizzle · 07/11/2019 08:40

Completely shocking. Everybody needs to read it.

NotBadConsidering · 07/11/2019 08:55

Here’s the unrolled version. Everyone in FWR should bookmark this page:

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1191453438825181186.html

NotBadConsidering · 07/11/2019 08:56

And someone cleverer than me should archive it somehow.

Joisanofthedales · 07/11/2019 09:29

Omg that's just too awful to finish especially given Dolatowski didn't even get jail time.

CranberriesChoccy · 07/11/2019 10:15

Wasn't there someone who tried to use those kinds of examples to prove that women are violent too?

Ereshkigal · 07/11/2019 10:23

And someone cleverer than me should archive it somehow.

Yes, I was just thinking that. I might try to learn how to do this later as it's so important. But I think we can pdf the pages in any case.

nauticant · 07/11/2019 10:27

Someone had already archived it here:

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20191107100540/threadreaderapp.com/thread/1191453438825181186.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20191107100540/threadreaderapp.com/thread/1191453438825181186.html

Ereshkigal · 07/11/2019 10:29

CranberriesChoccy

Took a while to find but is this the one you mean?

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/truth-female-sex-offenders/

Ereshkigal · 07/11/2019 10:35

That's great, nauticant. Have bookmarked.

CranberriesChoccy · 07/11/2019 10:58

@Ereshkigal

Yes I think that's the one. Utterly ridiculous to include that person as an example of women being violent.

An article linked within that is about a woman who groomed and had sex with a 14 yr old boy. The author claimed using the words "we" and "society" judge women offenders less harshly and even say lucky him! Uhhh, no. No we don't. I've seen some men express the lucky him attitude, and it's pretty disgusting, and other men chime in with similar stories about how they had a crush on their teacher in year 7 and would have welcomed a sexual advance from her. If any men are reading this, please stop doing that and speak up if you hear this kind of attitude from other men.

VickyEadieofThigh · 07/11/2019 12:33

I attended a (mandatory) safeguarding refresher course - a whole day - recently.

Part of it involved looking at real-life sex offender cases and recognising traits, patterns, etc and the trainer gave us 3 examples of women. Yes, she'd managed to find 3.

But in each case, she pointed out that the women were acting on behalf of men, who also in each case were emotionally manipulating the women to abuse on behalf the men (e.g. Vanessa George, who took photos at the behest of a man she'd met online).

Finding cases of women who have acted independently and sexually abused young children is not easy though there, are, of course, some examples of women abusing teenagers.

aliasundercover · 07/11/2019 21:00

bump

TheBullshitGoesOn · 07/11/2019 22:05

That Twitter thread has left me feeling sick.

koshkat · 08/11/2019 10:53

My god. So many of these men claiming to be women are paedophiles. I too felt ill after looking at that thread.

NotBadConsidering · 08/11/2019 11:07

Here’s an article by Dr Sarah Lamble who doesn’t think it’s correct to portray trans women prisoners as dangerous Hmm

oucriminology.wordpress.com/2019/09/09/let-women-prisoners-decide-on-trans-policy-sounds-democratic-but-is-misleading-and-risks-feeding-a-wider-trend-of-anti-trans-groups-using-women-prisoners-for-their-own-political-agen/

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