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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Supporting transgender children -new compulsory training

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buckeejit · 05/11/2019 20:59

I'm a childminder in NI & someone has just confirmed on FB chat group that compulsory training is coming for us for this.

I can just imagine. My wtf rant hasn't generally gone down too well - can anyone point me in the direction of some sound links about the harmful effect on children, (preferably not Christian heavy-it's a bit too Bible Belt round here & would like to keep any discussion separate from religious views)

Very many thanks

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OhHolyJesus · 05/11/2019 21:03

Hopefully TT can help? Maybe read and share bits from the school pack that is relevant in childminding.

www.transgendertrend.com/schools-resources/

Also look at Safe Schools Alliance - again for schools but they are looking at groups that go into schools and deliver that training, they have some letter resources and points made there might help your response.

Both none religious. Come back and tell us how you get on!

OhHolyJesus · 05/11/2019 21:05

And how could I forget 4thwavenow...

buckeejit · 05/11/2019 21:54

Thank you! My main 'opponent' has backtracked a little into 'who knows' territory after me posting links & ranting some more, rather than making me seem so unreasonable & bigoted

I had that pit of my stomach thing initially & 'why did I comment, I'm not cut out for this' thought, but glad I did as I know quite a lot of people read it & will hopefully help some to question it, rather than go along with the ideas of whoever the fuck is delivering/providing the training materials

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OhHolyJesus · 05/11/2019 22:03

It's a bit scary at first but once you're out you're out! Each time you do it you get a little bit more brave. If doing one small thing means someone else also asks questions you're doing it right!

buckeejit · 05/11/2019 22:05

Thanks - I appreciate the boost & you're right. I feel so much better for braving it out rather than running & hiding like I originally wanted to

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RiotAndAlarum · 05/11/2019 22:28

I haven't spoken to a single mother or father who thinks TWAW and that transing kids is fine (not to mention sports and prisons). You're not alone!

buckeejit · 05/11/2019 22:50

Why the fuck have training for it? I think the other childminders are trying to be 'dead on' about it & saying things like 'we need to support children & families going through this' etc & not really getting my POV.

I'm well down the rabbit hole now & have gone into safe spaces, transgender sex offenders etc & how like it or not, it is all linked. They can't see the harm in it I think. I can't see the benefit. Maybe I just keep writing until they get sick of replying. Although I have just said it's child abuse. Really hope I don't get kicked off the group though, I kinda need It! Grin

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TheBullshitGoesOn · 05/11/2019 22:56

Just curious, but what other groups is there compulsory training for? Is it compulsory to learn BSL? Is there compulsory training to support autistic kids? Dyslexic kids? Dispraxic kids? Cerebral palsy? Sight impaired?

How do you fit in childminding with so much compulsory training?

buckeejit · 05/11/2019 23:18

It's a bag of shit. The only other stuff we must have training on is 1st aid.& health & safety & some other dull compliant thing.

NI is the most backward place in the UK, (I suspect). The money for this training would be so much better spent doing emotional resilience training, mental health first aid, early learning tools, literally almost anything else would be more useful

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PencilsInSpace · 05/11/2019 23:33

Safe Schools Alliance red flags guide is excellent

safeschoolsallianceuk.net/resources-2/factsheets/

Women and Girls in Scotland children's rights impact assessment is good too. It's based on one particular guidance document but the same shit crops up in all of them so there'll be useful stuff in there

wgscotland.org.uk/assessments/

ANiceTeaBiscuit · 06/11/2019 02:33

Wow, training on helping children with special needs would be so much more beneficial (presumably you’re more likely to see special needs children as well). But, to your question, I second those who suggested transgender trend resources, and I believe safe schools alliance have some good information too.

Qcng · 06/11/2019 05:25

Transgender children are an adult experiment.
If a young child starts saying "I think I'm the opposite sex", call social services to monitor their parents. The best approach is "watch and wait" not immediately put the child on an irreversible medical pathway, leading to sterilisation and other health problems.

buckeejit · 06/11/2019 21:12

Small update. I got the last word in, as it were or people got bored of replying and reading my long posts!

I was happy to get a DM from someone who'd be following the discussion to say she agreed 100%, which was nice. I'm sure there were other lurkers who hopefully read some of it & made them rethink. Small progresses ;)

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Staffori · 06/11/2019 23:43

For future reference, this is a massive resource with links to all the campaigning groups, support organisations and news stories and articles www.peaktrans.org/children/

RiotAndAlarum · 07/11/2019 11:12

Speaking out on social media (or talkboards like Mumsnet) is definitely a way to persuade lurkers!

horseymum · 07/11/2019 17:21

I went into a foster carer review quite prepared to answer " how would you support a transgender child?" with answers like this but was never asked about it. Which makes me think some people in social work still care about children rather than proving their wokeness. There is hope!

Aaarrgghhh · 09/11/2019 12:21

Also from Northern Ireland and realise I’ve arrived to the thread late but I would so much rather child minders are somewhat trained for special needs. There are so many children with extra needs and parents have to give up work because no one can look after their children, we did have a daycare recently that catered to those with extra needs and it was amazing, it’s sadly closed now but thankfully it was around when our little girl needed it. Instead of training for something you may never come across I’d love if more places caring for children, or people that are childminders were trained for extra needs. Not even necessarily my daughters needs such as tube feeding etc because I understand that’s not easy to do but things like autism, ADHD training on that would be good. I agree our little country can be backwards but I want that to work in our favour for stuff like this lol.

OvaHere · 09/11/2019 13:21

Totally agree. I lost my CM when she could no longer manage my DS (ASD). I don't blame her at all, it was too much alongside the other children she had. It would be great if there were more specialist CM equipped to deal with SN.

buckeejit · 09/11/2019 23:39

@Aaarrgghhh I agree it is the heft & worst thing about our wee country & yes, supporting additional needs would be way more useful

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 10/11/2019 08:26

I’m interested in why other compulsory training there is?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 10/11/2019 08:26

What not why?

buckeejit · 10/11/2019 12:39

So little other compulsory training-1st aid, health & safety & safeguarding-that's the other one I couldn't remember. Yes if trans training goes ahead, surely it's in direct opposition to safeguarding! I despair Confused

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