Meghan Murphy at library event - footage

[ScrimshawTheSecond]

Footage of Murphy's recent talk and the protests:

@Driechdrizzle

i know i'm in feminist board, but i just can't ignore protesting footage, large portion of protester are women who shouting another women.
and feel just calling them 'man' is not correct.

it's just simplifying this situation. and just blame all this situation
to man can't help.

there's lot of woman trans activist. and there's lot of man rejecting trans movement.

admit or not i think more men are gender critical than women at this point.

'man vs woman' framing is not helpful i think.
just making gender critical movement(?resistance?) into part of feminist infighting, not common issue.

Yes I thought that drizzle, I cringed internally at that point. They know but are after brownie points.

I just watched that second video, and those people are ridiculous. They chant over and over about how the won't be silenced, but can't string two words together to explain what they're supposedly standing for. The woman on the street that spoke was excellent, she gave a clear and concise interview about the issue.

More men are resisting trans that women? Really skql? Which is the most active public forum in the country where people are able to publicly criticise trans ideology? Who runs that forum? What sex are they? Who posts on that forum? What sex are they? Where are you right now? Who have started the active groups to resist changes like MTF trans in women's sport or MTF trans in women's prisons? What sex are they? Who gets called TERFs? What sex are they? Who called this out years ago, before anybody was aware of the full implications? What sex were they?

"'man vs woman' framing is not helpful i think."

To whom is it not helpful?

@Driechdrizzle

" you seem to be saying that women are as harmful to women as men are."

about trans movement i think that.
male protesters's punching threatening....everyone think the guys are bad.
female protester's emotional blaming 'not fully inclusive, i'm woman
i don't have any matter' attitude...that can make other woman can
say 'no.'.

Are you really saying that a woman "emotionally blaming" someone is as bad as men threatening violence or punching women?

"everyone think the guys are bad."

They're right. They are.

@Driechdrizzle

you really think men are largely support trans movement?
just transwoman(bio man) and woke brothers may be.

Have you answered any of those questions? Even in your head?

Think about what you are saying.

@Driechdrizzle

some guy punch me, i try resist.
very possible i will be beaten. but i will try and try and try.

but woman standing alongside with him, cheering him
and i deserve that, i'm more hurt by her.

Of course men support the ftrans movement. They invented it. It exists because men's insitutions - politics, the law, medicine, big pharma - have created this social movement from the top down.

You think it's a few beardy men. Men wrote the GRA, men are the ones cutting into people's healthy tissue in order that someone can"change sex". This is ridiculous. I shouldn't have to be making these arguments on FWR.

And you want to claim it's women because a handful of women make you feel "emotionally blamed" and hurt?

Has that happened to you skql?

@Driechdrizzle

similarly.

Then it sounds like you're projecting your own stuff onto this situation so much so that you can't actually see what is going on here.

It's happened to me too oddly enough. Guess who I blame? The guy that punched me in the face, not the woman who told me afterwards that I just had to put up with it. Because, you know, he punched me in the face. She didn't.

and just not my experience.

matter about trans girl in sports,saw famous female sports star
standing with transgirl make me feel sick while guys shouting 'cheating!'

Oh dear, both videos are horrifying.

"famous female sports star"

Martina Navratilova?
Dame Kelly Holmes?
Sharron Davies?

Nope, they're all on our side, at some level of personal risk.

You seem to be judging the situation on how it makes you feel rather than what is actually happening.

@Driechdrizzle
not afterward anyway.

look at that protesters, there's lot of woman in there.
i think their present justified the behavior.

i think this is

'pp who believe gender theory' vs 'pp who don't.'

www.outsports.com/2019/9/11/20858434/jaycee-cooper-megan-rapinoe-trans-athletes-lori-lindsey-powerlifting-transgender-inclusion?fbclid=IwAR1F-igrv31uOqanKkEfga39ptlY_O_fl5TtGHPbGwpgi-HmG6KphoSwkC8

Meghan and the GC women at this event are brave for encountering such contempt and bubbling violence.

Imagine for one second, a group of TRAs meeting and being threatened in such a way?
There'd be an outcry.

Solidarity with Meghan.

It may be emotionally hurtful, skql, but I support anyone's right to peaceful protest.

The women protesters standing outside the library, while some of them were pretty loud, obnoxious and intimidating, didn't actually make me fearful in the way that the chanting, masked, threatening men do. Fearful in the way that a rat nailed to a wall would.

Being emotionally upset isn't pleasant; it's not the same as being physically intimidated.

I disagree with trans-rights activists on many things, but I support their right to protest. I don't support intimidatory, threatening behaviour.

It terrifies me that the boundaries between the two things are blurring, so that people support, for example, milkshakes being thrown at people they disagree with, dehumanising language like 'scum', right through to 'punch a terf', etc. It seems to me that politics as a whole is moving towards a more confrontational, aggressive and violent expression.

@Driechdrizzle

sorry...
my english is bad and maybe i cause some confusion.
i don't use google translator and my head is spinning.

what i want to speak is not 'woman is bad as man'.
just i can't see this issue as man vs woman.

piers mogan is gender critical but sturgeon drank coolaid.
trump jr 'it's unfair' but warren hails transkid.
ben carson defends woman's shelter but rep. wexton(w) attack him.
pelosi pushing trans right on ...peterson says no to bil c 16.

@ScrimshawTheSecond

ok you are totally right.
i lost myself a little...
they have right to protest.

but their protesting way...it's scary.
and when i saw protest like this... smile on this kids(not really kids but...) can't understand them.

You're doing great, skql, I think I'd struggle to articulate myself in a second language!

@ScrimshawTheSecond

thanks...

what i think x-> what i can write.