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Will this result in lawsuits?

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BovaryX · 02/11/2019 09:49

Three quarters of children seeking surgery at the Tavistock are girls. I wonder if any of these children who took drugs and/or had surgery to prevent puberty will regret their decision in a few years? If so, do you think it’s likely there will be lawsuits brought against the adults who facilitated this medical intervention? Will the fallout from this phenomenon include litigation?

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CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 02/11/2019 09:55

By the time the lawsuits come everyone responsible will be comfortably retired.

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 02/11/2019 10:05

Yes, it absolutely will result in legal action. Especially now that it is acknowledged by the Tavi that even puberty blockers are effectively irreversible, because 95% or more of children put on them progress to cross-sex hormones, then surgery. Yet, children and parents are lied to and told they are simply a chance to pause and reflect on the future options, when in reality they prevent the cure.

FannyCann · 02/11/2019 10:14

I think lawyers are waking up to a new stream of income and lots of court cases to come. They are looking at the evidence and gathering ammunition, in more than one country.

This is an article I cam across yesterday that cheered me greatly as I think it won't be until there have been some high profile court cases that people wake up and come to their senses.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Tdu2PbARVs9uvCPXFubss63jV2Ka4N/view

BovaryX · 02/11/2019 10:18

Fanny, I think you are absolutely right about that. As you say, this is a revenue stream for lawyers which is potentially a goldmine. Especially considering the fact that children legally will be regarded as unable to consent to irrevocable medical intervention.

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JoyceJeffries · 02/11/2019 10:22

Well it’s the usual arrogance of youth. They have perfectly healthy, working bodies but seek to have radical unnecessary surgery in the deluded belief that it will lead to happiness. There’s going to be a lot of law suits in the future.

The best thing the NHS could do is not offer any surgery or hormones at all.

BovaryX · 02/11/2019 10:30

Yes. I think that the specifics of this phenomenon, that the patients having this surgery are so young and the legal implications of that makes litigation inevitable. A lot of lawyers are going to be tapping this revenue stream for years to come.

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RedHoodGirl · 02/11/2019 10:42

I’m pretty sure (in the UK at least), that no surgery is performed until the age of 18. In legal terms that’s adulthood, so is doubtful that it will be relevant in this case (as it’s being heard under UK law).

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 02/11/2019 10:43

Yes there will be lawsuits. They will do nothing to mend the damage to these children and young adults because what has been done to them is irreversible and can never be fixed. They will cost the NHS a lot of money, both in compensation payouts and in ongoing treatments to support these devastated bodies and minds. They will make a few lawyers very wealthy. Politicians and journalists will wring their hands and wonder 'how could this have happened' and everyone will pretend they 'couldn't possibly have known' despite the millions of ordinary people across the world specifically telling them and begging them to stop.

It's all a bit lobotomies, thalidomide, recovered memory syndrome rolled in to one and on social media fueled steroids.

We never learn from history.

JulietakaIris · 02/11/2019 10:48

I’m pretty sure (in the UK at least), that no surgery is performed until the age of 18. In legal terms that’s adulthood, so is doubtful that it will be relevant in this case (as it’s being heard under UK law).

There is a thread currently running right here on MN, where it is claimed by the OP a 16 year old that they will be having their breasts removed shortly when they turn 17. Obviously I cannot be sure of the accuracy.

GetbusywiththeFizzee · 02/11/2019 10:49

By the time the lawsuits come everyone responsible will be comfortably retired

Absolutely or sitting very comfortably in the House of Lords denying culpability.

BovaryX · 02/11/2019 10:52

politicians and journalists will wring their hands and wonder how could this have happened and everyone will pretend they couldn’t possibly have known

Arnold, I absolutely agree with that grim assessment. As you correctly point out, we have seen precisely this same old scenario played out often with the same leading architects of the latest catastrophe echoing the same meaningless platitudes. And the same total absence of any shame or remorse.

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GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 02/11/2019 10:53

I'm waiting for the class-action lawsuits. When you consider how hard it is for a woman in her 30s with a child or two to get sterilised, it's totally irrational that a young woman of 20 or 21 can be given testosterone which will destroy her fertility. 'Oh, but I've never wanted children!' True, but that's not the same as knowing that you will never want them at any point in the next 20 years. You might never want them, but if you decide you want them at 35, then what?

BovaryX · 02/11/2019 10:54

It reminds me of this great poem:

the best lack all conviction while the worst are full of passionate intensity

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BovaryX · 02/11/2019 11:00

Julie, I saw that and found it quite shocking. It seems almost unbelievable that this is the current state of affairs.

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Twistables · 02/11/2019 11:06

I think the law suits have started with Sue Evans but i am disappointed that there doesn't seem to me enough support for it www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7610877/SUE-REID-autistic-teen-asked-change-sex-school-GP-psychologist-agreed.html

UpbeatDolores · 06/11/2019 13:42

Absolute numbers please. Does anyone have them. How many patients/under 18 yr olds are we actually talking about ?
By the way, how many uK under 21 yr olds are getting Botox these days ? And what will be the long term health impact ?

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