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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Policing the Gender Identity Debate

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MrsSnippyPants · 29/10/2019 13:59

This is good stuff

"The introduction of policies based on beliefs about gender identity is not unique to policing. Many organisations have introduced policies that replace sex with gender identity, instead of balancing the two, often without wider consultation or proper scrutiny."

policinginsight.com/opinion/policing-the-gender-identity-debate/

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MsMcWibble · 29/10/2019 15:25

I thought it was excellent. Hope it cheers Harry the Owl up too - gets a mention.
Absolutely true that policing by consent doesn't work when the police appear to be biased and pushing a political agenda.

Datun · 29/10/2019 16:20

That is an excellent piece. Clear and unequivocal. And wonderfully unemotive.

And

Footnotes

[1] The Crown Prosecution Service (England and Wales) state that ‘legally, a person without a penis cannot commit rape, but a female may be guilty of rape if they assist a male perpetrator in an attack.’

VinandVigour · 29/10/2019 17:22

Excellent piece. I do hope that this is discussed within police forces. Having been at the WPUK meeting in Brighton, and seen the lack of interest by Sussex Police in women being threatened, I would be delighted to hear that this is being respectfully discussed in the police stations of Brighton and beyond.

frazzled1 · 29/10/2019 17:41

What an excellent piece. Calm, clear, unequivocal.

Almost whooped when I got to this:

Clearly, organisations should be trans inclusive and non-discriminatory. This does not however, mean that forces must replace single-sex facilities and policies (as based on physical sex) with those based on self-defined gender identity.

There may also be a risk of indirect discrimination if facilities that involve undressing are not provided in a way that allows female officers and staff to have privacy from males (and vice versa).

In practice, balancing rights within the workplace may mean providing additional unisex or single occupancy facilities for transitioning or non-binary staff, while retaining single-sex facilities.

The Equality Act 2010 allows organisations to provide single-sex services if it is a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim, such as privacy and safety. A person with the characteristic of gender reassignment might be excluded from the facilities of the sex they identify with, even where they have changed their legal sex by means of a Gender Recognition Certificate, again where it is a proportionate means of serving a legitimate aim.

realitycalling · 29/10/2019 18:06

That was an excellent read. Despite the continual aggression and bullying being directed at women and some men, there is no doubt that these matters are repeatedly being discussed and debated - despite the wheels coming off at lobby group HQ.

terfsandwich · 29/10/2019 19:41

It's great. Also it's top of the "most read" list.

Ereshkigal · 29/10/2019 20:40

Brilliant piece.

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