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Twitter - AGP Awerness Day

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MrsWednesdayteatime · 26/10/2019 15:43

Just saw this on Twitter

twitter.com/AGPAwarenessDay/status/1181826260948996099?s=19

Not sure if it's been posted before. Comments on the post are mixed, people not sure if it's a genuine support day or a mean ol' parody account

Twitter - AGP Awerness Day
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DuMondeB · 26/10/2019 15:54

It coincides with IMD, so it’s definitely a parody/critique!

allmywhat · 26/10/2019 16:10

Men with that fetish do genuinely need support though!

AGP men who are aware they have a fetish, and don't want to be pressured into identifying as trans probably could use a support network. Especially, younger guys who are questioning whether their fetish actually means they are trans, when identifying that way is likely not an optimal outcome for many of them. The "trans community" puts a lot of pressure on men showing signs of AGP to "crack" (see any trans sub on Reddit, such as egg_irl, for examples.)

If this AGP Awareness Day is an actual thing it's a good thing ,and I wish them well.

Michelleoftheresistance · 26/10/2019 16:16

I thought we weren't supposed to kink shame?

Up the awareness day for APG, up for being able to talk about it and men getting the support with it they want, and up with the general public realising why women would like private spaces please.

HorseWithNoFucksToGive · 26/10/2019 16:29

I thought we weren't supposed to kink shame?

Is that because kinks are a mental illness?

NotTerfNorCis · 26/10/2019 16:45

Good, there needs to be more awareness of AGP. Luckily there's a lot of evidence for it.

Datun · 26/10/2019 17:10

Up the awareness day for APG, up for being able to talk about it and men getting the support with it they want, and up with the general public realising why women would like private spaces please.

Precisely. No-one needs to take the piss, as those reply tweets are suggesting. It's real and can be damaging to the person as well as their family.

And from women's point of view, men with AGP need to be widely acknowledged to promote understanding of why women's spaces must be ring fenced.

Karabair · 26/10/2019 17:24

"Men with that fetish do genuinely need support though! "

I hope you're joking, but men who sexually fetishise women need stopping not supporting. We're not props in men's wank fantasies. It's a disgusting view of women..

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 26/10/2019 17:35

There are men with AGP who would like help to stop and to ensure their fetish does not become all consuming. Awareness is useful for them.

And useful for all the women and children who need protecting from those AGP men who lack self awareness. Or the majority of the world's population as we are commonly known,.

Ths does seem more parody than useful awareness though, which is a pity, AGP is an important issue.

Karabair · 26/10/2019 17:39

I think most autogynephiles don't want to stop because they really really enjoy sexually objectifying women. It gives them orgasms after all.

The ones who do want to stop I'm sure completely understand how miosgynistic (woman-hating) autogynephilia is, and would be happy for its proponents and participants to be mocked to kingdom come by women protecting ourselves from this perversion.

Karabair · 26/10/2019 17:40

Satire has always been a legitimate tool of the oppressed.

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 26/10/2019 18:21

I think most autogynephiles don't want to stop

I don't disagree, but some do and are open about this. In the present climate where AGP is actively encouraged even those who do wish for an out find themselves pressured to carry on when societal pressure really ought to run the other way.

DuMondeB · 26/10/2019 18:32

It would be nice if AGPs had a way/place to reflect on it where they won’t be told it’s all completely normal (and that ‘cis women do it too’ 🙄) and that they should definitely and without question transition.

Karabair · 26/10/2019 18:35

So they should just stop. They're disgusting. You sound like you're asking for women to have empathy for them rather than treating them as the woman-haters they are. If they want to stop, they can do it on their own time, women owe them nothing.

Shaming is an excellent social pressure when the activity is harmful to individuals and to society.

Karabair · 26/10/2019 18:38

The bar "at least they're not trans" is so low as to be at the bottom of ocean. Women do not have to be grateful for that concession.

NonnyMouse1337 · 26/10/2019 19:42

It would definitely be good to have more awareness of and around AGP. I certainly had no idea about it until I got much more into the trans debate. Not sure if an 'international day' is the way to go about it though. Something like a support group is better.

With any kind of issue, the first step is acknowledging that it exists and that it is a problem. Awareness would help men realise what it really is about, especially if they want help to stop it. It would help their partner and families also realise what it is about and take steps to either distance themselves from it or assert that the men do something about it. And it also helps wider society recognise it for what it is and not inadvertently encourage it or treat it as harmless.

Karabair · 26/10/2019 20:02

A support group for perverts only encourages them. Sex offenders in prison who have been put in groups have ended up validating each other and giving each other ideas rather than acknowledging their behaviour.

There seems to be a huge misunderstanding here about how men's perversions operate.

Karabair · 26/10/2019 20:05

Then again Caitlyn Jenner's Vanity Fair cover was a particular type of fantasy which nobody seemed to be aware of.

A search on "satin corset" and "feminisation" will give some idea.

Cookieflavoredbiscuit · 27/10/2019 02:11

I'm not sure what to make of that account, but I think the more AGP awareness the better. I also don't see why a man with AGP who respects women is any less deserving of respect than any other heterosexual man. The problems begin when they don't respect spatial/linguistic etc. boundaries, which is what trans ideology is all about. There are a few men with AGP who are frank about it on social media, and I have a lot of respect for them. I especially think young men who are so-called "gender confused" and being pressured to trans, should have a chance to hear what they have to say.

Creepster · 27/10/2019 05:25

Today was Intersex awareness day but no one appears to have been aware of it.

Karabair · 27/10/2019 08:26

How can men who sexually fetishise women and use us as unwilling props in their perversions ‘respect women’? We are literally objects to them to be used to give them erections. Of course some of them can talk a good game, apparently having insight, but they’ll be getting off on that too.

If you want to know what’s really going on in their heads google forced feminisation and sissification. That’s where they’re at when they’re not putting on a public face.

This is why Grayson Perry gets away with dressing like a little girl in public because it sexually excites him. And nobody seems to mind.

Karabair · 27/10/2019 08:27

Another thing to criticise trans for - how far it has lowered the bar for women.

testing987654321 · 27/10/2019 09:25

those who do wish for an out find themselves pressured to carry on

Really? Who is pressuring men to fantasise about being a woman?

Other AGPs will be encouraging them, but not society in general.

Karabair · 27/10/2019 09:34

This might help for a reality check. Here's a book which is number 3 in the Google search for forced feminisation:

www.wattpad.com/story/122057752-the-gradual-change-forced-feminization-at-school

I was going to post a synopsis and chapter headings, but it's disgusting so I won't.

MoleSmokes · 27/10/2019 14:46

Karabair the "intro" to that story is telling. Summary: "It's all mummy's fault! She's horrible and I hate her!"

"It was Joe's final year at school when his father passed away and he had no other choice to move in with his mother in order to attain his dream scholarship. However, having chosen to live with his father after the divorce, Joe found that his mother held a grudge and was determined to make his life a living hell for the remainder of the school year. Joe had no other choice but to accept the teasing, taunting and humiliation that he would receive from his peers as he was slowly feminised against his will."

Cookieflavoredbiscuit · 27/10/2019 15:44

How can men who sexually fetishise women and use us as unwilling props in their perversions ‘respect women’? We are literally objects to them to be used to give them erections. Of course some of them can talk a good game, apparently having insight, but they’ll be getting off on that too.

I think, at some point or other in their lives, most heterosexual men use women as unwilling props to get erections. Where do we draw the line? I wouldn't try to argue that many guys with AGP are misogynistic narcissists, but I think some of them are making genuine attempts to find ways to deal with it, (for example, James Shupe) and I'd like to be supportive of them. If only because it's a social problem that affects women. Or if only because they might be able to help other men with AGP make better choices. The only way I can think of to get out of this mess, if there is a way out, is to find points mutual respect and honesty wherever we can. Maybe I'm just naive, but I want to believe that integrity can be a cure for many ills.