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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Prosittution and rape: how men frame women's experiences

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Karabair · 24/10/2019 20:45

Starting a new thread as a support thread was getting derailed.

It's a simple proposition - sex that a woman doesn't want is rape. Paid sex is unwanted sex, thus rape.

The idea that prostitution can merely be a transaction like any other customer service, comes from men. A woman-centred approach understands the unique experience of having another person's body parts inside your body, how intimate that is, and how violating it is if it's unwanted.

Men have created a world where women very often don't have direct access to resources we're entitled to. Thus they are able to manipulate and control women's behaviour by offering resources in return for being able to sexually harm us. A world in which women were equal in resources to men would be a world without prostitution. It's never a woman's choice, it's a man's choice.

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Dervel · 25/10/2019 22:59

A problem with the word consent is that it reinforces the concept that sex isn’t necessarily something to be enjoyed by women, but something endured or at the very least put up with. That makes the very concept of sex as transactional rather than reciprocal. It maybe too subtle a distinction for some people, but it was asked up thread why consent is rarely if ever brought up in relation to men. The reason is that sex is considered to be something all men are supposed to want and be engaged in seeking at all times. Why? Because it feels good. What’s odd is that biologically women are capable of enjoying sex as much if not more so than men, but we barely even consider female pleasure in our culture.

Fraggling · 26/10/2019 14:08

Yes it's been pointed out before that the other things you give consent for are things like vaccinations, medical procedures. You agree to go ahead with something that could be detrimental to you or painful, because the benefit will hopefully outweigh the downsides, or the downsides won't happen.

That's not a brilliant thing to attach to sex really is it.

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