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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Daley & Holmes - is this the beginning?

51 replies

midcenturylegs · 21/10/2019 13:40

Sorry if this has already been picked up by others!

Daley & Holmes - is this the beginning?
Daley & Holmes - is this the beginning?
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OldCrone · 22/10/2019 11:29

I just saw this on another thread. It compares results for high school boys with women finalists in the Olympics.

boysvswomen.com/

Daley & Holmes - is this the beginning?
MrsSnippyPants · 22/10/2019 11:47

That is an awesome piece of work!

AnyFucker · 22/10/2019 12:38

Peter Tatchell of "Not all sex involving children is abuse'" fame ?

He can fuck right off

ARoombaOfOnesOwn · 22/10/2019 12:52

0 supportive replies to Tatchell’s tweet though.

AnyFucker · 22/10/2019 12:54

Hopefully that fucker is pretty much persona non grata these days

midcenturylegs · 22/10/2019 12:59

@LangCleg thanks for the link.

I replied to Mr Tatchell's tat this morning. He makes my skin crawl.
He's also in danger of alienating his Male homosexual allies..

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CaveMum · 22/10/2019 13:13

Team GB’s James Ellington is fully on board.

twitter.com/jellington100m/status/1186388703175942144?s=21

CaveMum · 22/10/2019 13:14

These are useful stats to throw at anyone who claims there is no advantage.

Track & Field Outdoor World Records: Teenage boys v Elite Women

Daley & Holmes - is this the beginning?
OldCrone · 22/10/2019 13:25

There are lots more of these on boysvswomen.com/ for track and field events and swimming.

Daley & Holmes - is this the beginning?
Daley & Holmes - is this the beginning?
GaraMedouar · 22/10/2019 13:38

I feel so sorry for the Silver medallist who came runner up to McKinnon. So unfair. I would love Usain Bolt to actually compete in the women’s 100m with a swishy blonde wig just to show the idiocy of it all. And then obviously renounce his gold medal as he remembers he’s only a woman on a Wednesday.

Campervan69 · 22/10/2019 13:42

Blog post here by a male athlete guest for Fair Play for Women

fairplayforwomen.com/mckinnon/

ScapaFlo · 22/10/2019 14:03

Blackest black pudding. Even t'white bits are black Grin

MonnaLIza · 22/10/2019 14:44

There is a petition you may be interested to sign: www.change.org/p/uci-union-cycliste-internationale-demand-the-uci-evaluate-the-evidence-on-sex-differences-in-sport

DriftingLeaves · 22/10/2019 14:48

I wouldn't put my arm around the waist of a male-bodied person I didn't know either. I have issues around being touched.

Haworthia · 22/10/2019 14:56

Spoke too soon, James Ellington is copping some flak now.

twitter.com/jellington100m/status/1186623399616897025?s=21

Someone posted this as a reply. Normal testosterone ranges in men and women. As we all know, the normal range for women is still MUCH lower than the threshold of 5 (is that right?) decided by the IOC (again, someone please correct me if I’ve misremembered).

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/10/2019 15:32

I think he’s ok! Sadly we need men to speak up. No one listens to boring old bio woman (sounds like a superhero!)

BeyondBreakingPoint · 22/10/2019 15:38

From memory Haw, but I think the IOC limit is 10 and the normal max for a woman is 5

Michelleoftheresistance · 22/10/2019 17:50

I don't care if the IOC limit totally matches the normal max. Women aren't low powered men. It's not a damaged male system, it's an independent and different operating system.

Why are the half of the human population born with female biology not allowed sports that is purely about females and the female body? Why has everything - including the words female, biology and the right to even talk about being a class of half the human population - got to belong primarily to people born male?

Female born people are not just props on this planet to male born lives.

Michelleoftheresistance · 22/10/2019 17:51

I thought the normal max was 2.5 btw, with most female born people well below that.

Siameasy · 22/10/2019 18:00

I notice how RM says bad sportsMANship about the female competitor. Surely that is misgendering the female?! How violent!

Imagine if someone were to say bad sportsmanship to RM-RM would kick off.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/10/2019 18:01

Because there’s no such thing as bad sportswomanship. We are all brill.

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FannyCann · 23/10/2019 05:31

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andyoldlabour · 23/10/2019 09:05

"Blog post here by a male athlete guest for Fair Play for Women "

A really good article which highlights the madness of the IOC decision. The screenshots from RM's twitter feed just confirm what we already know.
For instance

"I am genetically gifted at packing on muscle", yes RM, that is down to the Y chromosome and specifically the SRY gene, which human females do not have.