Sue Evans's court case against GIDS

[archery2]

I have written about this twice but both of the threads have disappeared. The second time I tried hard not to offend Mumsnet - even asking them simply to remove the wrongspeak in order to save me the fag of retyping the message again.

Well anyway: Sue Evans and an anonymous mother of an autistic 15 year old girl are taking GIDS to court over their puberty blocker treatment. Their ultimate goal is to convince the court that the blocker should only be implemented when a court has given its permission - ie it would be a case by case thing of going through the courts.

I'm probably going to mess up now, but taking the NHS to court is expensive and they are seeking financial contributions via a well-known income-seeking website that sounds a bit like Cloud-Trust-Hiss

I donated last week and am really pleased to see how the fund has taken off. It's a really important case.

Slight derail but the daily mail today has a long piece on the man who's story of detransition was featured in the Times (and a different thread) last week. A couple of things sprung out to me. He was in a ward with 7 others having the same op - must be big business for the private facility where it was done.

His son picked him up to come home and said "But you still look like a man" - "he didn't understand, he thought I'd come out of the operation transformed into a woman" said Peter.
The level of ignorance is staggering - I don't mean just the son but the wider public. People really believe it is possible to change sex, in some sort of magical transformation.

This case focuses on the treatment of children but the implications are much wider and it will bring some much needed public discussion and hopefully better understanding of the issues.

Bumping as last day for digging.

Have donated. Thanks for this thread.

Share token for the article Errol was having trouble with.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tavistock-clinic-my-daughter-cant-understand-the-risk-says-mother-jr59vz0ck?shareToken=b23add127497ab98be1809dc824a5b2b

bumped as this is masively important

What Carriemac said.

Done. Possibly twice as the site went wonky during payment probably due to crap mobile signal here!

It's all for the good Galvantula

I thought the woman on This Morning was really good - v measured and caring, and was v clear about how political lobbying is having an impact on the medical treatment on children with a range of mental health issues, not just gender dysphoria alone. Plus the risks of infertility.

I noticed how Phil and Holly spent a lot of time in the interview looking down. As they have both previously seemed very supportive of the Susie Green/Mermaids approach to "trans children" - I wonder if they found this uncomfortable listening, because she was being so reasonable.

I've helped with the hole.

16,951 shovelfuls. Hopefully will get a few more by the end of the day.

17,000 shovelled and 21 hours to go. Last push.

Bump

9 hours to go...

Bumping this up

The deadline for filling this hole appears to have been extended.

www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jan/05/high-court-to-decide-if-children-can-consent-to-gender-reassignment

Guardian article.

I see Sue Evans' hole is still being dug for another four days. It's not such a big hole as some of the others. This is an incredibly important case. If she wins it could really put the brakes on the runaway train.

Observer article. Not Guardian. You’d never see that published on a Monday.

Oops, sorry. Yes! Observer!

Fanny - Crowdjustice cases generally reset to another 30 days when they "run out".

I haven’t logged in to read the full article but it’s good (and unexpected) that the Guardian are covering this key case.
Hopefully the Guardian are trying to redress their own political bias around this area and they will be speaking up for children caught up in this adult political dogma now?

I see Sue Evans' hole is still being dug for another four days.

There's a link to it from here:

mobile.twitter.com/sueevansprotect?lang=en

Oh OK Lang. Thanks. That hole just needs a bit of love, for some reason it hasn't attracted as many excavators as some of the others, though diggers have been digging many holes so a bit of fatigue is understandable.

Sue Evans is being interviewed on the Today programme now.