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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'Mumsnet to argue in court that TWAM'

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donquixotedelamancha · 14/10/2019 22:02

Apologies if I am duplicate posting, I can't seem to see a thread on this.

I've put the title in quotes because it's from Stephanie Hayden, so is quite possibly untrue. Here is the text of her tweet:

If #Mumsnet are only interested in "free speech" then many of you will find it odd that MumsnetTowers towers are intending to argue in court that #transgender women holding a GRC (legally of the female sex) do not hold the protected characteristic of the sex of a woman.

mobile.twitter.com/flyinglawyer73/status/1183047304976257025

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NotTerfNorCis · 19/10/2019 16:12

I saw that Twitter comment. I think Someone is making things up.

MrsWednesdayteatime · 19/10/2019 16:45

There is no primogeniture rule in who inherits land, money and assets

Gra says property and peerages or am I reading that wrong

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/7/section/16

'Mumsnet to argue in court that TWAM'
Butterisbest · 19/10/2019 21:25

Human beings cannot change sex, no amount of posturing and rhetoric and fucking stupid statements on Twitter will ever change the basic biological fact that Women cannot become Men. Men cannot become Women.
To me it really doesn't matter if a person has a GRC, they will always be of the sex of the body they were born into, not assigned at birth.
Go well STEPH and take Stephs to make sure that you're ok 🤣

Awaywiththepiskies · 19/10/2019 22:58

The law states that they should be treated for all purposes as their 'acquired gender', not that they are the acquired gender.

Yes, aGRC is a fiction that the GRA makes legal in certain circumstances. In other circumstances they are exempt from being considered as the legal gender, and their sex is recognised. Such as women’s refuges etc etc.

MinecraftMother · 19/10/2019 23:32

Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy...

TheFateLachesis · 20/10/2019 16:22

Gra sayspropertyand peerages or am I reading that wrong

Essentially yes, you are. If someone wants to leave property to their eldest son it would have to be specifically set up somewhere.

Awaywiththepiskies · 20/10/2019 17:25

I’ve always thought that the GRA doesn’t affect peerages, titles, and entailed estates is a dead giveaway.

Transmen are men, unless they are the eldest daughter of a duke, and then they are always women.

Tarkus · 20/10/2019 17:31

Yes but the right to be called Lord Snooty Duke of Snootydom does not mean that the money and land of the deceased Lord Snooty goes to the eldest male born child of Lord Snooty unless directed by a will or trust.

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