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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Legal challenge to GIDS

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archery2 · 11/10/2019 22:11

to mumsnet: I know you deleted my previous attempt to report this, and the note on the website said that you'd deleted it because fundraising threads weren't allowed. This my second attempt isn't an effort to spite you but, not knowing your rules in detail, I am hoping that if I do not link directly to the site but simply inform mumsnet users of the legal challenge, that would be ok? But obviously just delete it if not.

So a former GIDS clinician called Susan Evans is hoping to mount a legal challenge to the Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust on the grounds that children can't legitimately consent to the experimental treatment of puberty blockers. A mother whose child is on the waiting list for GIDS has joined her, as she's also concerned about the blockers. They are seeking people to contribute money towards the costs of doing this, via the crowdjustice website. [mumsnet if it's the word 'crowdjustice' that's the problem, would you kindly delete just that bit, as it would save my typing all this out again! Thank you]

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severnboring · 12/10/2019 12:19

@Apollo440 yes that's the Stonewall School Report isn't it? Well, they can't be accused of not being balanced I suppose... Confused

KatvonHostileExtremist · 12/10/2019 16:03

Well that hole is getting deep quickly, not surprising as it is so hugely important.

LangCleg · 12/10/2019 17:36

Donated and shared.

HandsOffMyRights · 12/10/2019 17:43

Nearly up to 5.5k now, which is already a massive jump since I chipped in this morning.

Such an important cause and I thank both women for being so gutsy in the current climate.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 12/10/2019 17:48

severnboring
I agree. The mangling of language is a continual irritant. But - I am just pleased that the issue is given such great coverage. When the lawsuits start flooding in and politicians claim that ' they didn't know', the record is right there.
I never regret stopping my Guardian subscription in favour of the Times (even tho I have to ignore some of the comments underneath some articles as they're awful).

veryboredtoday · 12/10/2019 20:13

I have dug a little. I think it will be the legal cases that eventually swing opinion.

Voice0fReason · 12/10/2019 22:51

Excellent coverage - will go and donate.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 12/10/2019 23:24

I see the figure is rising significantly. And there appear to be a significant number of unhappy parents of children caught up in this contributing.
My heart goes out to them and their children.

Needmoresleep · 13/10/2019 08:03

Not related but this MailonSunday article may be worth noting. The Tavi is clearly feeling under pressure.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7566851/Britains-childrens-gender-identity-clinic-hired-lawyers-silence-critics-new-book.html

testing987654321 · 13/10/2019 08:34

I also clinically disagreed
with the request to fall into line in immediately ‘affirming’ the children's beliefs and also the expectation to write to other professionals using the name and sex the child had chosen rather than the patient who had been referred. (This was in place of following the usual professional clinical stance of holding an open mind and trying to explore and understand with the child all the difficulties they were experiencing, whilst supporting them and their families in their distress and liaising with the referrer and other appropriate professionals).

This line really stood out for me. I work in a school and we use requested names and pronouns for "transgender" students.

It really concerns me that we are another part of system that will push the child towards medical treatment.

I wonder how GIDS justify affirmation and not keeping a professional stance.

I think this is a really important case.

Needmoresleep · 13/10/2019 08:54

Some of the comments on the crowd justice are heartbreaking.

We are digging to preserve the open futures of children.

(Google Transgendertrend for links...which in itself helps push Transgender Trend up the search list.)

FannyCann · 13/10/2019 09:10

A couple of recent comments.
The hole is being dug so fast with many people using JCB excavators.
It's going to be a really important case.

"Recently met a 21 y.o. womqn who is detransitioning as best she can. She has been subject hormones since she was 13, followed by a double mastectomy & a hysterectomy. CRIMINAL medical practice that needs as many legal challenges as we can manage."

"Inadequate CAMHS and aggressive activism from the likes of Mermaids together with an explosion of wokeness and Orwellian oppression of free speaking must be questioned and I want to have been on the right side of history when these awful practices are outlawed."

Smallblanket · 13/10/2019 09:51

The MoS article links to Heather Bruskell-Evans blog, which is a timely reminder of how important this legal case is:

www.heather-brunskell-evans.co.uk/body-politics/inventing-transgender-children-and-young-people-2/

Needmoresleep · 13/10/2019 13:58

Has the event on 27 October and mentioned in Heather Bruskell-Evans's blog on been publicised here. It sounds first rate, and really useful for educators and others working with children?

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