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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

A Woman's Place meeting Oxford 25 Oct

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RadFemsUnite · 08/10/2019 20:01

A Woman's Place is at the Lectern. 'This meeting will focus on academic freedom and the current issues being faced by women in particular'
Raquel Rosario Sanchez, Selina Todd, Susan Williams. Chair: Allison Bailey. www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/a-womans-place-is-at-the-lectern-tickets-75579284675

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itsyourlettersitsyourletters · 08/10/2019 20:45

I am beyond delighted to see that a Garden Court barrister is charing this.

I know a GC barrister (male, obvs) who is woker than woke - pro sex work, pro shouting down women with safeguarding concerns because trans trumps all.

Go, go Allison.

itsyourlettersitsyourletters · 08/10/2019 20:46

chairing

RadFemsUnite · 08/10/2019 20:54

That's interesting. Even more delighted she is doing this, then!

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slipperywhensparticus · 08/10/2019 20:57

Wont this mean they will be picketed

ContessaLovesTheSunshine · 08/10/2019 21:01

Really looking forward to this :)

itsyourlettersitsyourletters · 08/10/2019 21:03

Alex Sharpe , also of Garden Court

GC (abbreviation in this case for Garden Court not Gender Critical)

Specialises in human rights:

"Garden Court Chambers is a number one ranked barristers' chambers committed to fighting injustice, defending human rights and upholding the rule of law."

GC has hosted: transjustic conference

As I say I am agog that a GC barrister is attending, let alone chairing a WPUK meeting.

(disclaimer: obviously all barristers are self-employed but this chambers has a particularly 'woke mindset. Is the tide turning?)

Whatisthisfuckery · 08/10/2019 21:08

I’m looking forward to this. I’ve not managed to make any of the meetings yet but I’ve got my ticket this time.

Destinysdaughter · 08/10/2019 22:42

Tickets are on sale for this now!

Sicario · 09/10/2019 11:53

Excellent. Tickets booked. Do we all go out and get wankered after?

RadFemsUnite · 09/10/2019 18:46

Oh I hope so. It was in the Friends Meeting House last time there was a meeting in Oxford, lots of pubs at that end of town. After the last London one they'd sorted a pub for afterwards which was really nice. Is anyone around to meet up beforehand? I can't but I know from London that a few people might be nervous going in alone.

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crsacre · 09/10/2019 21:23

If anyone is nervous going alone, they can contact WPUK who will put them in touch with a local person who can meet beforehand and go in together.

Cuntysnark · 09/10/2019 21:27

I have my ticket :-)

crsacre · 09/10/2019 22:04

(use "contact the organiser" button on Event Brite)

Sicario · 10/10/2019 12:55

My super-lovely husband (who "peaked" a couple of months ago) is thrilled that I got him a ticket to come and join us. He worries about me because I am small and opinionated. He is 6'3" and is offering to escort as many of us as you like. Same for escorting out if required. I will be giving my contact details to WPUK.

Rubidium · 10/10/2019 21:08

I expect this meeting will be met with resistance (as per). Plus Thames Valley Police sound like they've been thoroughly Stonewall-ed:

www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/17959964.police-appeal-witnesses-transphobic-stickers-appear-oxford-city-centre/

www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/17960516.sticker-fight-transphobic-messages/

RadFemsUnite · 11/10/2019 17:37

Sicario that's lovely news. There was hostility last time WPUK was in Oxford but the Friends Meeting House and the WPUK stewards were excellent. I think there is safety in numbers so trying to persuade as many friends to sign up before tickets sell out.

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velourvoyageur · 15/10/2019 19:09

I’m going and can’t wait!

Whether it’s at the Meeting House or elsewhere think we’ll be safe for pubs in Oxford 🍺🍺 (or we can crash Wadham college bar)

TemporaryPermanent · 15/10/2019 19:17

Bought my ticket. Very keen to hear about record keeping and stats.

Mordred · 16/10/2019 14:49

DW and I would go if we could, but we don't live near Oxford unfortunately. Hopefully WPUK will get to Nottingham or Derby soon. I did ask them and they said they're working on it!

Sicario · 16/10/2019 19:10

Bearing in mind the way Thames Valley Police have behaved regarding stickergate, I would not be in the least bit surprised if any policing at the WPUK event once again wilfully ignores abuse, harassment and threats aimed at attendees.

The police have entirely lost the confidence of women. They have broken their own codes of conduct, ignored guidelines, and breached restrictions designed to ensure impartiality in their duty to uphold the law.

If we are met by an angry mob, remember that they were not invited, not given the location, and have therefore deliberately targeted the event in a co-ordinated and organised manner. Anyone in that mob is NOT a victim of so-called hatecrime. They have come to the location looking to make trouble and to stir up hatred against women who are gathering, AS IS OUR RIGHT, to discuss women's rights.

The police must therefore view the WOMEN attending the meeting as the ones who are vulnerable and at risk.

For any woman who is targeted by uninvited, intimidating protestors, THIS is how the police MUST react:

8.4.4 Suspect considerations
If the suspect is identifiable and can be located, and a power of arrest exists, an arrest should be effected at the earliest practical opportunity.
Positive action is preferable but the decision to arrest is always a matter for the officer, and should be based on the evidence available at the time. It should not be based on whether the victim wishes to proceed with a prosecution or not. The officer will, however, have to justify to their immediate supervisors why, if the opportunity existed, an arrest was not made at the time.

8.7.1 Code of Practice for Victims of Crime
The Code of Practice for Victims of Crime defines a victim of hate crime as an intimidated victim. It places an obligation on the police service to identify all vulnerable and intimidated victims and to provide them with the enhanced level of service to which they are entitled during an investigation.

I will be keeping a very close eye on proceedings and if I see any officer in dereliction of their duties I shall not hesitate to lodge a formal complaint with Thames Valley Police, and to pursue that complaint as far as the judiciary if needs be.

I would urge us all to do the same.

TemporaryPermanent · 17/10/2019 08:04

I'm hoping that if people feel they need to protest as is their right, that it will be calm. I'm bit nervous, stupidly. And, yes, a bit concerned that people genuinely feel threatened by these meetings. I don't really see why.

crsacre · 17/10/2019 19:45

www.facebook.com/events/2289740701138240/

A Woman's Place meeting Oxford 25 Oct
A Woman's Place meeting Oxford 25 Oct
Rubidium · 17/10/2019 20:34

"Groups like WPUK are directly responsible for the rise of anti-transgender hate and violence that we have seen in the last few years."

Prove it.

Sicario · 17/10/2019 22:52

@crsacre Thank you for this information. I will pass it on to the police.

Sicario · 17/10/2019 23:01

Just a reminder, that under UK law

Women have a right to self-organise, to speak and to be heard free from fear of abuse, threat or vilification in public discourse and in academia. This should be actively facilitated by those with civic or legal responsibility for promoting equality.

Civil or legal responsibility means the police must uphold and protect or right to organise.

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