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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mypronouns

42 replies

FWRLurker · 04/10/2019 13:29

Just this really. Found in a colleagues email signature

www.mypronouns.org/

I remember reading this stuff back when I was properly woke. Now I look at it and I’m like... why did I ever think this made any sense whatsoever?

Everyone has a right to decide what other people call them.

Pronouns have nothing to do with your sex so you should always be sure to inform everyone you meet what yours are

People who used sex based pronouns are making assumptions based on someone’s appearance which is wrong

Everyone should ignore the existence of sex in order to avoid accidentally offending hypothetical NB people

Pronoun preferences have nothing to do with being trans. They are nevertheless natural and not to be questioned

There are no conceivable downsides to any of this because personal identity is more real and important than anything else

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forkfun · 05/10/2019 07:46

A friend of mine works in a large, well-known organisation. HR asked staff to add pronouns to their email signatures. Many, many people pointed out to HR that this made zero sense, as whoever you are emailing would never respond having to use anything other than your name and you/your. HR ignored them. Then pretty much all women in the department my friend works in (a rather small section of this large organization) added he/him. The policy was then suddenly dropped. Apparently most other staff simply ignored the request.
I'm freelance but I think the only way to stop this madness is to collectively troll people who try to inflict this shit on us.
I will treat anyone with respect, but how I refer to them when they are not even in the room is no one's fucking business but my own.

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 05/10/2019 07:47

Singular second person pronouns (that you should continue to use, as is):

“You are a writer and wrote that book yourself. Those ideas are yours. I like both you and your ideas.”

Nah, I'm on a crusade to reintroduce the REAL second person singular thou, thee, thy, thine.

STOP MISPRONOUNING ME1

StinkyWizleteets · 05/10/2019 07:49

i was always raised to believe it was bad manners to refer to someone in the third party (she’s the cats mother) in their presence and aside from using someone’s Actual name, who honestly cares how someone refers to you in your absence? It’s the insistence on validating someone in their absence too, ensures they’re centred in your thoughts at all times as you try to remember which pronoun they prefer. So bloody entitled. And it’s not only youth doing it.

Yogobo · 05/10/2019 07:51

I'm sure that bothers you, Yogobo. Anyone could be annoyed by lack of recognition or by mislabelling. Does it do you any degree of emotional or physical harm? Is it literally killing you? What does it tell you about the person making this mistake? That they are nasty, evil haters who deserve to die in a fire?

Yes it does precisely all of those things and more and I report every case to the relevant authorities and the BBC. I urge others to do the same.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 05/10/2019 07:53

I saw Blaire White (loathed by most TRAs) talking about this and pointing out that they're not your pronouns in the sense that they're something you own or control, they're a reflection of what other people see when they look at you. Like, that is how language works. What the pronoun police are demanding is a radical restructuring of how language operates within a society, and "sod off" is really the most appropriate response.

FamilyOfAliens · 05/10/2019 08:27

I guarantee this ridiculous practice will die a death in a year and all those who were taken in by it will be going back into their email settings and quietly deleting the evidence of their foolishness.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 05/10/2019 08:31

MY DH has been working with someone whose company makes them state preferred pronouns in their sign-offs so I've been hearing about how bloody annoying it is on the regular. The majority of people find the whole thing absurd.

Ereshkigal · 05/10/2019 08:44

Please check out and support International Pronouns Day, to take place October 16, 2019.

Shock think I'll take a Twitter break that day

HandsOffMyRights · 05/10/2019 09:00

Yawn.
Compelling my speech to prop up somebody's lies and ego? Forget it!

My badge will read 'my pronouns are sex based, just like my oppression.'

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 05/10/2019 09:11

I think I'll be skipping International Narcissism Day too.

midcenturylegs · 05/10/2019 09:35

@ArnoldWhatshisknickers
"Nah, I'm on a crusade to reintroduce the REAL second person singular thou, thee, thy, thine. "
😂😂😂😂

I really don't know how any of this mypronoun stuff is going to translate in to Aussie colloquial. Sheila, cobber, drongo, many others which are a pidgin blend of nouns, honorifics ( awesome PP!) and "myprounoun"s.)

Also, mypronoun really annoys me. Shouldn't it be my-pronoun?

Tyrotoxicity · 05/10/2019 11:35

Pronouns have nothing to do with your sex

I generally loathe txtspk but LOL is really the only appropriate response to this.

If they're not sex-designators, what the hell categories are they used to sort people into?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 05/10/2019 11:38

Hair length? Skirt status? So the Highland games only needs ladies loos then.

MilkGoatee · 05/10/2019 12:13

Oh, bugger, one of our senior HR people always sends out these cringy "international day of" emails, tied into some corporate thing or other. Don't know how she feels about this one, but I wouldn't be too surprised. And I will be in the office on that Wednesday too...

JellySlice · 05/10/2019 12:35

Compelling my speech to prop up somebody's lies and ego? Forget it!

This. 100% this.

My pronouns are obvious. If they're not, you can ask or guess - they're about your perception, not mine.

FWRLurker · 05/10/2019 15:57

If they're not sex-designators, what the hell categories are they used to sort people into?

None. Pronouns exist on a higher plane of existence completely untethered from any aspect of material reality. They are bestowed upon blessed beings by the ungendered deity in a revelatory dream state.

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Tyrotoxicity · 05/10/2019 17:12

I'm picturing some sort of mystical shamanic rituals and the imbibing of copious amounts of drugs, FWRLurker. Could be fun. Do we have to actually use the revealed unique pronoun afterwards, or can we just go along for the trip and then stick with the old fashioned sex-based third person singular henceforth?

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