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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

This account is unbelievable: words mean NOTHING

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terfsandwich · 03/10/2019 20:44

I was idly reading some new stories on Reddit's 'peak' thread in gender critical. This one just takes the cake. Of course we never know whether it's true but there are a lot of similar stories emerging:

The most notable and recent one being the moment I accidentally misgendered a trans man whose name is Nathan, calling him "her" across the room. I apologized immediately and Nathan and I had a "nice" ("brainwashing" would be more appropriate with hindsight) talk where he told me that a trans person didn't need any form of gender/body dysphoria to be legitimately trans. So Nathan was a trans gay guy that never underwent testosterone injections or surgeries, and he entirely presents as what is traditionally perceived as female (long hair, make-up, clothes you only get in the female section of the store). At first I was a little bit threw off, because I didn't and still don't understand how somebody who presents like that would not understand that a stranger might call them "she" or "her", let alone get really offended by that to the point where he called me a "young disrespectful fag". Some people try to reason me after I misgendered him telling me that this could trigger body dysphoria even though Nathan says he is a 100% bottom who doesn't like to penetrate his partners and his bio in every one of his social media accounts includes "pussyboy" and "fembottom" or even misogynistic slurs such as "slut" and "whore".

^But I didn't really hit peak trans until his boyfriend, Adrien, who identifies as an exclusively top gay man, told me he was exhausted of cis gay men denying his experience with homophobia and trying to seduce him even though he's not attracted to penises and only attracted to vaginas. Not only is Nathan is the only man he's ever been in a relationship with but Adrien even says he's "gay for an exception" when it comes to Nathan.

When they're together, they look like the perfect average straight couple and live the most cis-heteronormative lifestyle, and the fact that Adrien was claiming having experience with homophobia though his partner was perceived as and biologically female, really made me angry. It felt like my experience with homophobia meant nothing.^

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terfsandwich · 03/10/2019 20:46

Oops buggered up the Italics.

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Gingerkittykat · 03/10/2019 20:49

My DD went to a college with a young "man" like Nathan. The college allows you to put whatever sex you want on ID card and this person went into hysterics when the exam invigilator questioned whether she was actually Male name because she had pink hair, boobs and was wearing a skirt. People just didn't understand that she was a boy who just happened to like girl stuff.

Said girl has now grown up a bit, is back to identifying as female and studying hair and make up.

LenoVintura · 03/10/2019 20:51

Wot?

terryleather · 03/10/2019 20:53

It's a power play, pure and simple, like 99% of this dismal shit show.

slipperywhensparticus · 03/10/2019 20:55

Hysterics because the invigilator queried the name so doing their job?

PulyaSochsup · 03/10/2019 20:56

Honestly? I feel tired after reading that! I think some people just want to be part of the trans experience and seem desperate to have experienced homophobia. It seems to be intellectually on trend, despite being a traumatic experience. I find myself wondering if people are collecting experiences like badges, such as transphobia and homophobia, which is diluting the impact of relating the experience to others.

While trying to prove how open minded and inclusive they are, I worry that some people are trying to provoke this reaction, which is trivialising it. Deeply worrying.

BarbaraStrozzi · 03/10/2019 21:20

It's like a Monty Python skit.

Wanders off shaking head in puzzled middle-aged fashion at the idiocy of youth.

picknmixer · 04/10/2019 08:41

At times like this I love being older. ‘That’s nice dear’ is always the perfect reaction.

Soubriquet · 04/10/2019 08:44
Confused

That couldn’t be more confusing if they tried really could it?

So basically, a straight couple wants attention by being a gay couple....with one who is a woman and the other a man who claims they are gay...but not attracted to penis

Right then

deydododatdodontdeydo · 04/10/2019 08:48

It reads like a spoof from Private Eye.
Are we being trolled?

PackingSoapAndWater · 04/10/2019 09:24

This strikes me this is some sort of kink between Adrian and Nathan that is now being publicly performed.

The more I read from detrans individuals, the more I can connect a lot of it to the dark recesses of old tumblr and its "public broadcasting" of private fascinations.

RuffleCrow · 04/10/2019 09:34

Can we just start ignoring these people, or replying with a sweet "yes dear"?

Or making a point of saying HE with a little smile every time instead of a straight faced "he"?

People with moderate social skills fear this kind of polite humouring - i think it would soon sort them out.

Maybe we could have a society for it? The Polite Humouring Association? Or PHA?! (Which strangely, is also the noise i hear inside my head when i read these threads) Grin

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