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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Raquel Rosario-Sanchez will be on Radio 4 Today 3 Oct

30 replies

nettie434 · 03/10/2019 06:16

Just heard the programme preview after the 6am news. Justin Webb says they will be interviewing Rosario and will also be asking the university to respond. No timings given. They used to post this on the website and tweet a link but it was stopped a couple of years ago.

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donquixotedelamancha · 03/10/2019 07:03

Just caught this. Will be in the next hour apparently.

MouthyHarpy · 03/10/2019 07:24

It’s on now!!!

MouthyHarpy · 03/10/2019 07:25

07:25. It’ll be on the iPlayer afterwards.

MockersthefeMANist · 03/10/2019 07:34

Horrific Terfs on R4 Today?

Must be someone's day off.

twelvecolourfulbirds · 03/10/2019 07:35

Brilliant. She was allowed to speak freely and say exactly what happened without being interrupted every sentence. Bravo Justin Webb for letting Ms Rosario Sanchez give her account without trying to twist her words (other BBC journos please take note).

Bristol Uni not represented, issued a "we can't comment on individual cases" type statement. No trans community reps to give false suicide stats.

SisterWendyBuckett · 03/10/2019 07:36

Rosario spoke with absolute clarity. All her points were made succinctly and she was allowed to speak without any undue interruptions.

Listeners will be Confused at what's been going on at Bristol Uni - though Rosario made it clear this was an issue that needed to be addressed across all
Academia.

University's statement in response was utterly pathetic.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 03/10/2019 07:36

Just on. It was quite tame considering what we’ve seen on social media. But it gave a good briefing. And at Liverpool Uni??? What’s going on?

Everyone as CasaFekko was shussshed.

MockersthefeMANist · 03/10/2019 07:40

Bristol Uni's position seems to be:

The meeting took place off-campus. And cyberspace is off-campus. So that's alright, then.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 03/10/2019 07:43

Bristol unis policy is ‘shhhhhh don’t upset the weans... aw look - they have a wee placard! No I don’t think that’s how you spell ‘kill’ but that’s ok if that how you feel you want to spell it... Off you go on your wee protest march’

nauticant · 03/10/2019 08:14

She was allowed to speak freely and say exactly what happened without being interrupted every sentence. Bravo Justin Webb for letting Ms Rosario Sanchez give her account without trying to twist her words (other BBC journos please take note)

Over the years Justin Webb has written a number of articles about the tendency of identity politics to be toxic. There might be people on Today who are more GC than him but he is the one most willing to go against the grain of views considered by the BBC to be permitted.

TeenPlusTwenties · 03/10/2019 08:19

Good interview.

BristolWoman · 03/10/2019 09:07

So, Bristol Uni's message is - students, as long as you bully your peers online and off our campus, everything's good? Hmm

They aren't even correct to say this wasn't happening on campus:

mobile.twitter.com/8RosarioSanchez/status/1164245147623841792

'On May 28th, Student B had to be removed by Campus Security after they were found wearing a balaclava & pacing down the halls where I was due to speak.

If
@BristolUni
pretends this isn't a safety issue and decided to designate me "the abusable student" on campus, they are wrong.'

Excellent interview. There is a letter of support for Raquel here, please sign and share:

supportingraquel.blogspot.com/

RoyalCorgi · 03/10/2019 09:42

Raquel was very impressive: very clear and articulate in her answers. Well done, Justin Webb, for giving her the opportunity to tell her story.

And shame on the University of Bristol for allowing an overseas student, who has come to this country to study, to be bullied and harassed in this way.

nettie434 · 03/10/2019 10:29

Just putting link to the interview here. Starts at 1 hour 23 minutes in (teeny bit early probably but I find that easier than trying to going back a minute):

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0008wkh

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ChattyLion · 03/10/2019 11:59

Raquel R-S was such an impressive interviewee, she really held it together calmly after all the shit that she has been through and may continue to get after speaking out. Flowers

Justin Webb did a good interview too. I have emailed the bbc to thank them because it’s important to tell them when they get it right and wrong.

Bristol’s response is totally inadequate.

What are Universities UK, the representative body of all of them, doing to distance themselves from this and to make Bristol accountable?

What are the Office for Students, the regulatory body of all UK universities, doing to take action on behalf of this student?

Who is helping her, and why are these organisations not listening to her broader points about institutions being cowed by political bullying (ie regulatory capture)?

Universities should all be redoubling their free speech efforts and support against harassment and intimidation and re-emphasising their whistleblowing policies for staff and students in the light of this.

mobile.twitter.com/officestudents
mobile.twitter.com/UniversitiesUK
mobile.twitter.com/BristolUni

Antibles · 03/10/2019 14:38

Wow, thank you Justin Webb and well done Raquel. Explained the issues clearly and calmly.

ChattyLion · 03/10/2019 15:05

www.bbc.co.uk/faqs/comment_appreciation
In case anyone wants to thank the BBC for this item and mention all the other areas they could cover: like last week in Brighton where specifically women’s rights to freedom of speech, free association, publication of their views, exchange of ideas were all under attack.

borntobequiet · 03/10/2019 15:51

I too have emailed the Today programme - I always try to show appreciation when gender critical views are aired.

OneEpisode · 03/10/2019 17:10

I heard something at 8:45. I think it was simply a reference to the Raquel interview earlier. It was where the presenter summarises what’s going on in general after one long section on a particular issue and before the next long section.
Anyway the presenter said “we have been talking about ... the bullying of women by trans activists”.
So not “alleged” and all plurals.
I don’t know if that was in the script but it was said!

skql · 03/10/2019 17:24

free speech!

zebrasdontwearbras · 03/10/2019 18:08

I heard this live this morning while I was running around getting ready - from what I heard it was a very good and measured piece, and certainly didn't cast Bristol University in a good light!

Well done Racquel R-S and Justin Webb.

I think the BBC, much like the rest of society, is probably completely divided on the topic of gender identity. I get the feeling that the Today presenters, and many of the established reporters are of the "this is nonsense" variety - but there's obviously a strong trans lobby operating behind the scenes there.

Nick Robinson upset Paris Lees in his R4 interview, simply by his journalistic questioning, and I think the old "definition of a woman" thing.

John Humphreys was openly critical once he had left the Today programme.

donquixotedelamancha · 03/10/2019 18:42

Just caught up with it now. I agree with all of the above comments- she was very articulate.

MockersthefeMANist · 03/10/2019 18:52

there's obviously a strong trans lobby operating behind the scenes there.

like the 'tired & emotional' we assume now ex-editor of Today who said he would never have a Terf on his show and had ensured this did not happen.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 03/10/2019 18:54

It was off-site though wasn’t it? Coincidence? Meantime out in the real world...

Coldwatershock · 03/10/2019 20:42

Loved him later on rounding up the sections of the session, saying we'd heard about 'women bring bullied by transactivists'. How abominable that we hear that so rarely despite actual events.

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