Today Programme: discussing domestic killings without once mentioning the word 'woman'

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Did anyone else hear this? It was about 8.35am this morning (Wednesday 2 October). I'm fuming. Going to make a complaint.

Where can we listen to it?

Or even men, as in “most domestic violence is perpetrated by men”.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_fourfm

Hope this works. Starts at 8.35. Its about three minutes long.

It's an interview with the new domestic violence Commissioner, Nicole Jacobs.

The items starts, 'the number of people killed by a partner or relative is at it's highest level for five years...' and carries on very much in that vein. At no point are women mentioned.

In the context of DV it is correct in what was said.

I heard this too and was in complete disbelief. No mention of the majority of victims being women, or perpetrators being men. I also couldn’t believe that the discussion is still focused on services for victims (much needed, don’t misunderstand me), without any discussion about prevention and the reasons why men behave in this way. I will complain too.

How can anyone hope to reduce DV if they won't discuss what kind of people are predominantly the victims and what kind of people are predominantly perpetrators?

As well as this new example of the word 'woman' being unfashionable , there has always been the huge underlying problem that patriarchal society thinks of male violence levels as 'the norm' as opposed to 'appalling compared to the other half of humanity'. Women's relative pacificity is just viewed as a sort of charming irrelevance or something; never as a standard men ought to consider aiming for.

I really wish newspapers would divide the news up even occasionally into sections based on what men have done and what women have done and make it explicit for a change instead of invisible.

really wish newspapers would divide the news up even occasionally into sections based on what men have done and what women have done and make it explicit for a change instead of invisible....
Imagine if they did this! What an exposure to reality! I would love to see this even for one days news.

Interesting second reading of the domestic abuse bill in parliament . Watching now but not sure if it is live. Talking about teenage girls specifically in abusive relationships, and coercive relationships. Several MPs have spoken about their own experiences. Not really naming males as the main perpetrators though.

It was very apparent that there was no mention of perpetrators (men) or victims (women).

The BBC is doing a sterling job at the moment of talking about domestic violence without actually mentioning the fact that all the victims are female. It's quite impressive because it's clearly entirely deliberate

Before anyone corrects me, not all victims of DV are female. But most are. And the ones who are murdered pretty much all are.

BBC Breakfast (the TV programme) did this a few weeks ago. I was screaming at the television - agree with the poster upthread, the wording is very carefully chosen, they are doing it deliberately. There has definitely been a meeting about it.

In the context of DV it is correct in what was said.

It may be factually correct but it is dishonest. It is lying by omission.