Genuine gender dysphoria

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Is the percentage high? I was having a conversation with my mum and brother about transgender people and the real threat to women. They both believe in gender and my mum expressed her sympathy for those trapped in the wrong body. But I don’t believe in gender only sex and stated as such and when asked my brother and mum to define a woman aside from a vulva they couldn’t. My brother (who is gay so has been on the end of some abuse) says transpeople have it tough and that not everyone is a predator. He couldn’t understand the threat of some men (he’s very tall and broad). I raised the toilet issue as I have dds and two have special needs so are very vulnerable. When I suggested unisex loos he thought people should use the loos in the gender they felt they were. I explained to both I don’t have an issue with transpeople but men pose a huge threat to women. After my mum admitted she’d feel uncomfortable if any obvious m2f was in the same changing area as her.

My question is how many of the trans women we hear about now have genuine gender dysphoria and who is just a feminine male? Or just likes wearing a dress?

Well, There are 4,910 trans people have been issued a Gender Recognition Certificate, which needs a diagnoses of Gender dysphoria or surgery to get.

So that's that....

And there are roughly 200,000-500,000 people in the UK who say they are trans.
Data from the GEO here:
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/721642/GEO-LGBT-factsheet.pdf

By the Stonewall definition - about 99% of people have gender dysphoria ie some variation from stereotypical man or woman.

Its distinct from your sex so someone of the male sex should use male toilets. Simple enough?

Gender dysphoria has been reported across many countries and cultures, and incongruences between sex and gender have existed in human society for thousands of years. According to the DSM-5, among individuals who are assigned male at birth, approximately 0.005 percent to 0.014 percent are later diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Among individuals who are assigned female at birth, approximately 0.002 percent to 0.003 percent are later diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Because these estimates are based on the number of people who seek formal treatment—including hormone therapy and/or surgical reassignment—these rates are likely an underestimate of actual prevalence.

www.psychologytoday.com/gb/conditions/gender-dysphoria

Personally I don't think it matters as we cannot issue a questionnaire at entry to a women's public toilet, nor can I perform a DBS check or interrogate them about their intentions, and even if I did, what would they say?

A man who was there for criminal reasons could look as innocent and harmless as a man who was indeed harmless.

How would I be expected to tell the difference just by looking at them?

I have no doubt that some people feel very uncomfortable with the gender roles that conform to their sex. However that doesn't mean they were born in the wrong body. It means society's gender roles are wrong - this is the basis for much of feminism!

that not everyone is a predator.

Of course not. But that's just a variation of NAMALT (which a lot of blokes don't properly understand either).

Gender counts for nothing. Sex counts for all. You may as well say ‘everyone with a red jumper can use that loo over there’ or ‘everyone who feels a bit sad today go the ward on the left’ for all the sense it makes.

Gender Dysphoria has only been a diagnostic term for the last 6 years and I would think the vast majority of trans women (and trans men) fit the criteria

In order for someone to be diagnosed they must be experiencing clinically significant distress or impairment as well as experiencing at least two of the following for at least 6 months.

A strong desire to be of a gender other than one's assigned gender

A strong desire to be treated as a gender other than one's assigned gender

A significant incongruence between one's experienced or expressed gender and one's sexual characteristics

A strong desire for the sexual characteristics of a gender other than one's assigned gender

A strong desire to be rid of one's sexual characteristics due to incongruence with one's experienced or expressed gender

A strong conviction that one has the typical reactions and feelings of a gender other than one's assigned gender

So anyone that really wants to be the opposite sex and really wants others to treat them as being that sex will be diagnosed providing they are suffering some degree of distress that is impacting their life e.g depression, anxiety attacks etc