Should I object to this drag event or not?

[Ahundredpercentthatbitch]

I am part of a fundraising group for a local branch of a national charity. Next month we’re organising a fundraising event and the host of the event will be a drag act (I wasn’t involved in booking the acts - I’m just support taking tickets on the door, behind the bar, etc).

The thing is, I’m not very comfortable with drag. To me it’s just ladyface. Should I say something and potentially create bad feeling in the group? Or just decline to volunteer?

My local retirement village residency had a drag artist in the other week.

The visit gained a page spread in the local care home (we can't even get an article in re a serious issue) and loads of rainbows/fanfare and fawning from the female reporter.

'Ginger' was in town as part of an inclusive programme to widen residents' knowledge of LGBTQ.

Surely the home (which patted itself on the back for being so progressive) could have done all of that without a bloke doing an awful parody of a woman?

Because women haven't been as brutally subjugated as black people have, whatever some feminist might believe. Patronised and made inferior perhaps but not sent to work (literally) to death in the fields and beaten/tortured like POC were.

There was no chivalry for black people...

@LordRandallXV

Because women haven't been as brutally subjugated as black people have, whatever some feminist might believe. Patronised and made inferior perhaps but not sent to work (literally) to death in the fields and beaten/tortured like POC were

Are we playing oppression trumps here ?

Two women a week are MURDERED any their partners / ex’s here in the UK.

Tens of thousands are raped and sexually assaulted . Thousands are trafficked. Little girls are mutilated .

That’s before we talk about women overseas.

It’s not really about being patronised.

I think the stats are 137 women killed every day worldwide by a partner or family member. How on earth can you say that the worst that has happened is being patronised LordRandall???

Oh, and the order of men most likely to kill a woman is husband/partner, then father, then brother. So the very people who claim to love is.

And men make up almost 80% of homicide victims, meaning that upwards of 400 men are presumably killed daily (not that the study you reference actually looked at men- wonder why?).

I stand by my statement that women as a group have not had it as hard as black people, especially white women from first world countries.

It’s not a competition and this transcends race.

Who are those men killed by? Other men. There is a whole multi billion pound industry based on men’s wish to see women hurt and degraded and the violence and abuse stats speak for themselves sadly

Do you think it makes a difference to the victim's family whether a man or woman killed them?

Or are we victim blaming - i.e. the victim shared the same sex as his murderer so he deserved it?

There is a whole multi billion pound industry based on men’s wish to see women hurt and degraded.

Um...

A quarter of straight porn searches by women are for videos featuring violence against their own sex. Five percent of searches by women are for content portraying nonconsensual sex. While men still search for significantly more porn than women, search rates for these more extreme types of sexual content are at least twice as common among women than men.

Those statistics make for fairly surprising reading, but are the facts Dr Seth Stephens-Davidowitz, a former Google data scientist, discovered when he was given complete access to PornHub's search and views data for his upcoming book. "If there is a genre of porn in which violence is perpetrated against a woman, my analysis of the data shows that it almost always appeals disproportionately to women," he writes.

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www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_uk/article/bm9w7v/why-are-so-many-women-searching-for-ultra-violent-porn

Really, LordRandall - someone's fantasy life or porn habits somehow mean they love a bit of violence, they're asking for it, they deserve it? What is your point?

Oh - unless it's that the violent porn appeals to women more and therefore, the porn industry is somehow a service to womanhood?

Non-violent porn features trafficked women, features underage girls, features women who, despite appearances, are non consensual - do we have to be whipped, spat on and punched for the porn industry to be held to account for it's treatment of women? Or could we maybe recognise that something which generates a shitload of money off the back of vulnerable women, is not a good thing?

Really LordRandall? You are basing your view of what porn women watch on data from an anonymised website. I'm a bloke and when confronted by a box asking what 'gender' I am I almost always click female just 'cos I can. Seriously I'd love to see their methodology because I rather suspect it wouldn't stand the slightest scrutiny. Nice of you to admit that men do use porn more than women. How much more you don't say. Is it similar to sex crimes where it is 99% male? But I suspect you are the type of person who whines 'but women do it too' so even if it was one woman to a million men you'd still feel it justified excusing male behaviour. I also note that the researchers thought that women searching for violent porn may well have been the victims of violence. Fucked up for sure but not in keeping with your narrative that women are violent abusers too.

You are basing your view of what porn women watch on data from an anonymised website. I'm a bloke and when confronted by a box asking what 'gender' I am I almost always click female just 'cos I can. Seriously I'd love to see their methodology because I rather suspect it wouldn't stand the slightest scrutiny.

I remember this study. It was discussed previously on here and I read several linked articles.

It was conducted with Google Analytics which has been tested against more traditional methods and been proven to be accurate in analysing large data sets - businesses use it for their marketing analysis.

Everybody who uses Google products (Google web browser, Gmail, etc) must necessarily agree to Google's terms of service, which allows them to track your internet usage and browsing history - through the use of a cookie which downloads to your computer I believe.

The user analysis can look at such things as the browser searches you make, the websites you access, and the channels you subscribe to (e.g. on YouTube). It can also access your sign up details (name/DOB used when creating your account). Generally, this data has been proven to yield accurate results. If somebody signs up with the name 'Sarah', subscribes to Zoella's channel on YouTube, and mainly watches channels/accesses sites about women's fashion and feminism, she's likely to be female.

Similarly, if somebody signs up with the name 'Dave', indicates they're male, subscribes to MMA channels on YouTube, and regularly searches things like 'Arsenal vs Chelsea score', they're probably male. Across millions of users (which Pornhub has) this data can build a very accurate picture - it's been proven by studies.

I don't think the point here is about women being violent, it's challenging the statement that 'there is a whole multi billion pound industry based on men’s wish to see women hurt and degraded'.

If the most violent porn is viewed overwhelming by women, then they are supporting this industry and partly responsible for it's continuation as it wouldn't be produced without any audience to cater for. Of course, men are still by far the principle demographic, and all porn is degrading to women. But it is certainly a bit alarming that women are prime consumers for the most violent type and I don't think this fact should be ignored.

I wonder if the increase of violent porn watching by "women" is caused by the same thing as the dramatic increase in "women" committing violent crimes.