Saw this and thought of you

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theelectricagora.com/2019/09/27/gender-what-is-it-good-for-absolutely-nothing/

I don't think this article has been posted already. It's an excellent (and easy reading) discussion of why gender roles became successful but are now harmful. It exposes how silly and inconsistent the Genderist obsession with Gender Identity is.

The article sees Genderism as the mainstream Feminist position and contrasts it with radical Feminism. I'm interested how that will go down here.

Great article. It's very clear and to the point.

It's reasonable to say that genderism is the mainstream feminist position but personally I'd say it's more accurate to call it the establishment feminist position. Among politicians, well-funded and well-established women's organisations, and academics, genderism is popular. But among the wider public, I don't think people really know enough about what it entails to be called supporters of it, and I think what public support there is for it relies precisely on people not knowing what it entails.

It's reasonable to say that genderism is the mainstream feminist position but personally I'd say it's more accurate to call it the establishment feminist position.

Sadly, I think that is true. It was just striking to read it in such stark terms.

Haven’t read it yet but this a clear piece too.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/toi-edit-page/the-wests-own-problem-of-minorityism/

Just bumping this as I honestly think it's the most succinct and easily-accessible article I've read on this debate.

Just bumping this as I honestly think it's the most succinct and easily-accessible article I've read on this debate.

Really good, isn't it? There is a lot of potential reading on this site so it can be overwhelming- but I think this one is worth a couple of minutes.

Interesting article. While I agree that there is a hyper individualism in the West and quite a bit of focus on the superficial and the aesthetic, I don't think it's something that is necessarily unique to the West.

I think the obsession with women's beauty is common in many cultures around the world, present and past.

Gendered roles and expectations arise over time from certain differences between men and women.

Like other animals, human beings are strongly driven to procreate. This leads to certain behaviour and interactions between the sexes. Men are expected to advertise their virility while women are expected to signal their fertility.

Various masculine acts and behaviours become associated with virility, such as showing off physical strength, signalling superiority over other men via material wealth or intellect and so on.
Similarly, various feminine acts and behaviours become associated with fertility and women throughout history have sought to enhance their beauty and their body to advertise their potential as a mate.

Both men and women seek to validate their suitability as a reproductive partner in various ways and this isn't confined to people in the West.