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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Munroe Bergdorf again

101 replies

Ereshkigal · 22/09/2019 19:22

Not to be outdone by Cosmo... Shout out to Mumsnet!

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?storyfbid=2485229614886738&id=1629990253744016&anchorr_composer=false

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JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 23/09/2019 08:19

There are a handful of positive comments on that but the majority seem to get it.
I wouldn't bother reporting tbh. Let it get shared and viewed. People are getting the message, even if it's not the one Bergdorf intends

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 23/09/2019 08:21

If Facebook are serious about hosting quality, reliable content then they should be made aware of this divisive crap so they can remove it

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 23/09/2019 08:22

Getting a slap on the wrist from the platform they rely on might also encourage Brut to avoid making such disingenuous shit in future

I can’t see a downside tbh

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 23/09/2019 08:46

My earliest memory of current affairs is of the Cambodian Genocide. The image of skulls piled high has always remained with me, I still dream about it occasionally.

There's something about trans privilege activists like Bergorf that always brings it to mind, and not with them as the victims.

AncientLights · 23/09/2019 08:51

Yes quite Arnold. I have stood in front of piles of skulls and clothing worn by people when they were taken into detention by the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. Harrowing.

It is not something to be appropriated by anyone with Bergdorf's privileges.

butteryellow · 23/09/2019 08:53

The angry T%RF lady is laughably sexist. Compare this hate-filled harridan with the fragrant, bashful, compliant Bergdorf, we are meant to think.

I haven't watched it, but did they actually compare - as in, have the two of them next to each other? Because in my experience, that's when it really falls down - no amount of facial feminisation surgery knocks off the extra 5 inches of height/generally 20% larger-ness

Ereshkigal · 23/09/2019 09:00

No, you only have a close up of Bergdorf's face during the whole video. T*fy lady with her megaphone is presented as a cut away.

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Itallt0omuch · 23/09/2019 09:06

Reported for hate speech. I doubt they'll uphold it though.

AbsintheFriends · 23/09/2019 09:57

Can't believe anyone paid for this. Surely it was created by a relative of MB's for a year 9 media project?

I started laughing at the stock image of crime scene tape and lots of police and police cars, and the animated 'graph' showing the increase of hate crimes without showing any figures at all. Didn't stop chortling until the bit about genocide.

There is nothing remotely funny about appropriating the darkest horrors from history and the worst atrocities human beings are capable of. And why? To manipulate impressionable young people into feeling sorry for a group with considerable power and privilege masquerading as victims.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 23/09/2019 10:13

I'm half way through Ben Elton's Identity Crisis - he was obviously lurking on FWR for quite a while Smile

I expect to meet a version of MB as I read on.

By the way, did anyone see Paris and L'il Owen on Pointless Celebrities at the weekend Grin

placemats · 23/09/2019 11:13

The graph! OMG the graph is like something from a 1970s Open University video.

If this is the best Bergdorf can do, then sorry but it's awful.

JoyceJeffries · 23/09/2019 11:14

The production quality is laughably bad but then it’s always been difficult to take Monroe seriously.

OrchidInTheSun · 23/09/2019 11:49

I didn't see it @CuriousaboutSamphire but I did see that Paris' agent misgendered Paris in their tweet about it which amused me

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 23/09/2019 12:04

Really Orchid ? Grin

That is hilarious

Turns out we’re not the only ones mysteriously able to detect people’s sex...

CuriousaboutSamphire · 23/09/2019 12:20

I did see that Paris' agent misgendered Paris in their tweet about it which amused me Grin

They went out in the first round... DH asked why that woman had such long sleeves, followed immediately by "Don't bother, I get it!"

Oddly I can't find any pictures of them!

Itallt0omuch · 23/09/2019 12:40

My report on Facebook said it's not hate speech. Obvs.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 23/09/2019 12:46

Telling outright lies in an effort to whip up prejudice against women isn’t hate speech? Good to get that confirmed

ShouldBeCookingDinner · 23/09/2019 16:12

MB misunderstands the law along with the rest of them...in that video basically telling every man out there that they can go into our female only spaces...the predatory types only need to know that they can get away with it.

Ereshkigal · 23/09/2019 16:54

They are just astroturfing this biased, bullshit interpretation of the law. IIRC MB even says it is the GRA that allows trans MTFs into women's spaces, not the Equality Act. Which isn't true. Unless you have a GRC which few do, and even then it's not actually something mentioned in that law, that sort of thing is within the purview of the Equality Act. I wonder if this "mistake" was intended?

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PeterRouseTheFleshofMankind · 23/09/2019 17:35

The appropriation of 'genocide' is disgusting actually.

I agree that the juxtaposition of the old, ugly, harridab screeching into the loud hailer, compared to Munroe with her soft voice, batting eyelashes and coquettish grin is just total misogyny - 'look how much better I can woman than these awful screechy cis women'.

Fuck off. Just fuck off with all of it.

Michelleoftheresistance · 23/09/2019 17:47

Yes, the careless throwing around of that word is deeply offensive and belittling to those who have suffered things that the likes of MB can't imagine having been privileged to grow up in a part of the world where the worst thing imaginable is women saying no to sharing single sex spaces.

I get equally angry at the childish tossing around of 'Nazi' since villages aren't being massacred and people forced into ghettos and death camps, but then empathy and respect for others aren't hallmark values of this lobby. More the tossing around of any word they perceive as powerful that might influence others to do what they want.

OrchidInTheSun · 23/09/2019 17:59

Screenshot of the tweet with typo from UA.

Back to Bergdorf - that video is bloody risible. I'm surprised that any brand wants to be associated with it. Apart from the stupid chart, the hyperbole and the terf modelled on Walliams' awful auntie, Bergdorf can't string a sentence together. Were people too scared to point that out in case they got accused of microaggressions?

Munroe Bergdorf again
NotBadConsidering · 23/09/2019 23:54

That tweet! Grin Also, interesting to see a photo of Paris, when Paris doesn’t have control of the position or filter on the camera.

Bergdorf’s video is just awful.

IdaBWells · 24/09/2019 03:53

I haven’t read the whole thread but isn’t the increase in transgender “hate crime” going to include women on twitter who get a visit from West Yorkshire police? In other words not actual crimes at all, but offending trans people’s feelings, or issues around Free Speech while many trans people threaten women with actual violence? A young transwoman (MTF) age 25 was found guilty of punching a 60 yr old woman in the face. NO women have been convicted of physical violence against any trans people as far as I am aware.

What is Monroe doing about all the violence against women? Many, many more women are victims of violence and murder than TIM.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 24/09/2019 05:04

Somehow it's fine for Munroe to regard the problems faced by actual women as not Monroe's problem, but us not regarding Munroe's problems as our top priority is "genocide".

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