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Please could someone help me articulate an email to Asda regarding these pyjamas?

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Acunningruse · 18/09/2019 12:19

First post here so please be gentle.

I was looking for Christmas pyjamas this morning for DD age 3 and 7yo DS. Ridiculous I know in September but last year I left it too late and everywhere sold out.

I was just about to buy the red pyjamas from Asda below for both of them when I happened to notice the pyjamas were in the boys section. Intrigued, I looked in the girls section and found these pink so-called Christmas pyjamas.

Now I am very sleep deprived due to said 3yo not sleeping ever. So I don't know if my initial horrified reaction is OTT. But just WHY??? Why are there pink ones for girls? The universal colours of Christmas are red and green not insipid pink! Why do there need to be separate girls and boys ones? It just seems so unnecessary but at the same time sending a message as ever seems to be the case that girls and boys should be treated differently. My DD is already one of the strongest fiercest people I know and I don't want that changing any time soon but with stuff like this how can it not??

Excuse tired angry rant, if anyone else thinks I am not BU pls could you help me form a coherent email?
Thanks

Please could someone help me articulate an email to Asda regarding these pyjamas?
Please could someone help me articulate an email to Asda regarding these pyjamas?
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codenameduchess · 19/09/2019 09:42

I couldn't get annoyed at the PJs (but why do the red ones need a dinosaur and alien?). However this divide of boys and girls items is at a tipping point and as a society we need to make a stand. Before puberty there is no reason girls and boys clothes need to be different, other than the consumers will buy into it, and as long as it's being bought the stores will carry on. An email to Asda won't do anything and I think they've proved they don't really care. The debate isn't about pink dresses or digger T-shirt's, it's so much bigger but as long as the consumer continues to buy in to the gender delusion it won't change.

I have a 4 year old daughter who is very interested in science and engineering, every age appropriate toy or kit I see is marketed to boys, or if it happens to be aimed at girls its fairy/unicorn magic rather than science. Why is it ok to market a science kit at boys called science but to market at girls it has to be 'magic' and a watered down version. I refuse to buy the 'girls' sets, how can we encourage girls to take up STEM subjects or have anyone believe in true equality if we are allowing this kind of message at primary age?

bd67th · 19/09/2019 18:12

Neurotrash www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1883 explains it well.

leaserspottedmummybird · 20/09/2019 18:11

@Acunningruse tbh I think in the grand scheme of life this particular thread over a pair of pjs is quite ridiculous.

Thinking about Syria, shooting etc and putting it all into perspective.

NatashasDance · 20/09/2019 18:22

I have a 4 year old daughter who is very interested in science and engineering, every age appropriate toy or kit I see is marketed to boys, or if it happens to be aimed at girls its fairy/unicorn magic rather than science

Really? Galt toys specialise in this type of kit. Apart from 1 kit for perfume making which only had a girl on the box none of their kits were marketed in that way. The first results on Amazon were the same.

My objection is to the production of cheap, disposable Christmas tat. I doubt very much that children who want Christmas pyjamas will still be wearing them at Easter.

bd67th · 20/09/2019 21:21

Thinking about Syria, shooting etc and putting it all into perspective.

Syria: male violence, men fighting to decide where to place the boot on women's necks.

Pink pyjamas: conditioning girls to behave a certain way and hold a certain self-image, to their detriment.

In perspective, its all part of the same big picture. Your argument is used by MPAs to silence western women's objection to street harassment because women in India are dragged off buses, raped and murder. It's the same big picture of girls and women being conditioned into accepting less agency and freedom so that men can control us.

LucaFritz · 20/09/2019 21:35

On another note what's the bloody dinosaur obsession plaguing baby clothes at the moment Confused im not mad keen on them and i doubt DS will be but every baby outfit has dinosaurs on or a dinosaur theme Hmm

leaserspottedmummybird · 22/09/2019 13:04

@bd67th it's not an argument, just an observation

leaserspottedmummybird · 22/09/2019 13:05

@bd67th if it bothers you that much Just don't buy pink pyjamas. My girls love pink and so does my boy.

birdsdestiny · 22/09/2019 13:09

I am actually able to think about Syria and think about the socialization of boys and girls. I may be spectacularly clever though Grin

RuffleCrow · 22/09/2019 13:15

Yeah just buy the red ones. You could still email them to let them know what you're doing and how the boys ones are erroneously named.

HPandTheNeverEndingBedtime · 22/09/2019 13:24

Just buy the red ones and teach your Dd she can wear whatever she wants. Whenever Dd and I go shopping we look at the pink section then the blue section.Wgen she was small I tried hard not to call it girls/boys. She's 10 now her favourite colour is blue and often choses clothes from both sides. She like sthe longer cut of shorts in the boys section and the colours, boys clothes te d to be thicker and have pockets. She is Harry Potter mad and there is always a larger selection in the boys side. Alternatively try Polarn Pyret in their sale a d when your Dd is bigger shops like Fat Face do good practical hard-wearing clothes in lots of colours.

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