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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transgender lobby group Mermaids urges puberty blockers for 12 year olds

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stumbledin · 16/09/2019 00:11

In a meeting with 20 teachers and pastoral staff at Newman University in Birmingham last December, a trainer for the transgender lobby group Mermaids said giving puberty blockers to gender-dysphoric children gave them “immense relief” and was “completely reversible”.
The trainer, recorded by an audience member, said: “Puberty blocker medication doesn’t make any changes, so [is] completely reversible. What it does is put a pause button on the pituitary gland and freezes puberty where it is. Not growth, just puberty. Take the blockers away and biological puberty will recommence.” She added that using blockers “does provide immense relief from the dysphoria” and argued that arrested development meant less need for physical intervention later “if they decide to go down that path”.
This weekend the advice was attacked as “misleading and potentially dangerous” by an Oxford academic. The session is believed to be a blueprint for training by the group in schools nationally.
Michael Biggs, associate professor in sociology at St Cross College, Oxford, says the guidance could push children towards medical intervention. He cites research which found that most children prescribed blockers at a young age progressed to taking cross-sex hormones and surgery, which damage fertility.
Biggs says he has unpublished evidence that after a year on blockers “children experienced increased psychological problems, including self harm. Mermaids is not giving pupils a choice that they may just be gay or lesbian. Instead, it is diverted down a drastic path that ultimately ends in surgery. To be propagating such information to schools is disturbing.”
Michael Conroy, who taped the footage and has worked in pastoral support in schools for 15 years, said he believed Mermaids was encouraging young people to think that they were “born in the wrong body . . . It’s putting children at risk.”

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/transgender-lobby-group-mermaids-urges-puberty-blockers-for-12-year-olds-b96zqbh2k

It seems that Mermaids continue to provide misleading guidance despite the number of professionals who have questioned their training and advice. So long as it is only the Times that reports on this issue, and so long as the establishment pay lip service to the trans activists agenda, there doesn't seem to be anyway to stop them spreading their dangerous ideology.

And so many schools seem to be buying into them

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MangoesAreMyFavourite · 16/09/2019 06:39

Charity Commission?? Shouldn't they be interested?

feelingverylazytoday · 16/09/2019 06:49

Why 12? Haven't most children at least started puberty by age 12 nowadays? I would think quite a few girls are more or less through it by that age, and the boys won't be far behind.

SirVixofVixHall · 16/09/2019 17:39

Boys in dds class are mostly pre puberty or v early on at 12. Girls a mix. My dd is 12 , and only at the very beginning of puberty, hardly any change at all yet. So for a child like her it would stop everything developing.
Also if they are saying 12 in practice they will push for 9 or 10.

hoteltango · 16/09/2019 22:05

I don't know why Mermaids et al keep going with the mantra that puberty blockers are completely reversible. They say that trans kids have always been trans, born in the wrong body, assigned incorrectly at birth, even displaying non-verbal cues.

So there's absolutely no need for puberty blockers to be completely reversible, is there?

The whole idea they put forward that puberty blockers are just buying time before the child makes up their mind implies that there are trans children who change their minds. But they won't change their minds, right? Because they've always been born in the wrong body, right?

Strewth, it's translogic.

scotsheather · 16/09/2019 22:25

Question for Mermaids. How many kids have successfully 'reversed' puberty blockers? Lets see the data of this experiment.

FWRLurker · 17/09/2019 03:11

The idea that puberty blockers will not impact growth is physiologically preposterous. In boys, testosterone during puberty leads to increased height, bone density, and muscle growth.

We have no idea how much if at all this can be ameliorated by later use because no one is collecting the data.

If this is what passes for medical advice at a major conference it’s clear medicine is still more an art than a science.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 17/09/2019 07:47

The phrase ‘transgender lobby group’ is telling. Not long ago it would be ‘charity for the most put upon group in the history of the world’.

HumberElla · 17/09/2019 07:54

Who are the head teachers letting a lobby group in to their schools, who have zero medical qualifications, and are suggesting the children are given untested drugs?

Let’s have a list of all head teachers.

Make it public record. So we know exactly who to come back to when these kids realise what has been done to them.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 17/09/2019 08:27

Indeed. And name those who say ‘I’m not having the anywhere near my pupils’.

SirVixofVixHall · 17/09/2019 22:00

Yes. This needs to be out in the open. A friend’s dd, in another European country, has been put on cross sex hormones after sudden onset gender dysphoria. She is 16. I could cry.

HumberElla · 18/09/2019 11:15

SirVix that is heartbreaking. And still no movement on government commitment to URGENTLY undertake review of why ROGD has risen in girls by 4000% in this country.

ArranUpsideDown · 18/09/2019 11:26

Question for Mermaids. How many kids have successfully 'reversed' puberty blockers? Lets see the data of this experiment.

^^ So much this!

If they believe it, show us the data - help us to understand your belief by releasing the evidence.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 18/09/2019 11:28

They will just say that the child wasn’t a genuine trans kid in the first place.

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