Can't believe the BBC is giving credence to this nonsense

[Thehouseintheforest]

Catching up on the news headlines I scroll down and see this reported as factual news by an organisation that prides itself as honest and impartial..!

So disappointed in them peddling this nonsense. There is absolutely NOTHING remarkable about a biological woman giving birth ! and the person giving birth is the child's biological mother.. if they also want to call themselves the father then up to them ... but this is NOT a father giving birth !! It's like the fucking emperors new clothes , do they think that if everyone says something often enough then it will become true ? Beyond ridiculous and quite dangerous to present untruths as 'facts'

www.ladbible.com/entertainment/film-and-tv-dad-who-gave-birth-to-son-shares-his-unique-journey-to-fatherhood-20190914

I felt the same way as you. Especially since this person didn’t even start taking male hormones until age 25! No amount of hormone cocktails or plastic surgery can change your sex. It’s just changing your appearance so you can “pass” as the opposite sex.

Then to be like the Oracle of Delphi and announce that childbirth “was fucking awful” and if “more men had to go through it....blah de blah”
She is biologically a woman doing what billions of women have done for millions of years. She is not a man giving birth.

"The 32-year-old had decided to keep his womb in case he wanted kids when he transitioned in 2013"
Does he not get this? I feel like I'm on a planet full of alien when I read this sort of nonsense. Men do not have wombs. If you have or have ever had a womb you are a woman.

Completely agree! If you have the biological ability to give birth you are a woman. You are not a man having a baby

I feel like the world is going mad.

The BBC is pushing a pro trans, pro surrogacy anti women agenda and has been for years. It is no longer fit for purpose and should have government funding stripped. It's a propaganda machine.

*It's a propaganda machine"
YY I almost feel as though the BBC has been taken over by Russian Oligarchs determined to destabilise the west.

I hate what the BBC is becoming

and the majority of the organisation don't believe in this bollocks, just like the majority of people don't believe in it

but as an organisation they are allowing themselves to be led to the edge of a precipice by self serving narcissists

do they not realise that people are already thinking 'hang on a minute....' when considering their licence fee, and if they continue to peddle stuff that is so detached from what most people know to be reality, they're going to find the old loyalties draining away

I know mine has

The phrases "his womb" and, conversely, "her penis" make my head explode.

if out of touch elites choose to peddle nonsense and blame ordinary people who don't buy into their nonsense then those ordinary people will chose to stick it to the elite if they get the opportunity, even at the expense of their own self interest - you end up with Brexit

do I think the BBC going up the swanee would be a good thing? categorically not

but with every piece of this errant nonsense they take themselves a step further towards people no longer seeing where the BBC fits into their lives, or why they should be compelled to pay for it

I saw it and found it interesting but although I am a woman in my late 40s I can't understand for the life of my why a young woman who then wants to be a man would then retain her female reproductive organs. Surely that's not a full transition then? I am very new to the whole thing and only learned what a TERF was last week. Surely if she wanted to be a man her reproductive organs would be the first thing she would want to be rid of? Genuinely confused.

I can't understand for the life of my why a young woman who then wants to be a man would then retain her female reproductive organs. Surely that's not a full transition then?

The whole ideology is based on some sort of vague internal sense of self that trans people have, detached from material reality, so eg if you are a transwoman with a penis, you have a fully functioning "female penis", and if you are a transman who gestated and gives birth to and breastfeeds a baby, you are a man who gave birth, "end of". Then you get two "lesbians" getting married where one of them impregnates the other with "her" dick, and everyone is supposed to clap and go on about how brave and stunning they are.

No need to physically transition at all.

Gender ideologists who are fully immersed in this belief system will say things like "I don't have dysphoria about my physical anatomy, only my pronouns" so they make the people around them change the way they talk about them (new name, new pronouns etc) without actually changing a single thing about their physical appearance. Look up Alex Drummond, a bepenised and fully bearded person who says they are a woman, insists on female pronouns, and advises the Labour Party and Stonewall on trans stuff.

To be fair phalloplasty has something like an 80% failure rate when tried on a female person, so I wouldn't advise it. I wouldn't advise a hysterectomy and lifelong dependency on injecting testosterone either, it's very cool these days, but lots of girls who want to identify out of womanhood are not actually doing this, all you need to do it change your Facebook profile to be considered "a man".

I basically object to being forced into pretending women who give birth are men. I find it really offensive. So fuck off BBC.