Fully male sex offender demands and given access to women's prison under self-id

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www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/male-born-transgender-sex-offender-20051834

Limerick prison has 26 women.

Apparently he had a gender id certificate when he was convicted, though presumably as it's self is, they grant them quickly so any convicted rapist can just self certify he's a lady to get into the hen house

While I'm glad a broadsheet has finally taken notice, AIBU to find the examiners article on this infuriating, it reads like something great has been accomplished by being the first trans prisoner, even the headline makes me clench my teeth "Inmate’s gender recognised by IPS"
www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/inmates-gender-recognised-by-ips-950494.html

Jeez, this is just pure insanity. How did it ever ever get here?

I really don't understand how putting major prisoners in womens prisons can be seen as progressive in any way.

What it is, is a win for patriarchy over women.

Fraggling. Yeah, why the fuck are we falling over ourselves to placate the feelings of a sex offender? Are they no longer the social pariahs they once were? Did I miss something?

The Examiner had become.such a rag in the last few years.

I despair of what is sneaking in under the radar in Ireland.

From the US:

www.nj.com/news/2019/09/nj-agreed-to-put-transgender-inmate-in-womens-prison-not-so-fast-say-officers-unions.html

Are any trans men in men's prisons? Couldn't find anything on my search.

One thing that needs to happen is that female officers who're being expected to search male prisoners who claim to be woman need to file countersuits, with the support of their unions. They didn't sign up to be forced to search balls.

Are any trans men in men's prisons? Couldn't find anything on my search

I understand that that the entire UK prison population has about 25 transmen in total, and they are all in women's prisons.

Do any trans men want to be in men's prisons? Surely they're not that stupid.

Under the United Nations Bangkok Rules regarding the minimum acceptable treatment of female prisoners, male prisoners are never to be housed with female prisoners and best practice is that male and female prisoners are kept in separate estates.

THAT is international best practice, and every one of the Anglophone counties are now in violation of it.

I think surgery should be compulsory before a GRC is issued.
And anyone self IDing should be legally required to apply for a GRC as soon as they self ID.

endofthelinefinally "I think surgery should be compulsory before a GRC is issued."

Can't be done due to Human Rights Act 1998. It means the person is sterilised and that breaches rights to privacy and family life.

Relevant European Court of Human Rights Rulings:

www.echr.coe.int/Documents/FS_Gender_identity_ENG.pdf

Fair Play for Woman - Transgender rights: How did we get here? Part 2: Changing legal sex status

fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-rights-get-part-2-changing-legal-sex-status/

The problem in all of this IMHO is that a person's perception of their "gender identity" can be recognised in law as equivalent to their "legal sex", rather than, for example, recognition of alternative legal status such as "male transgender" and/or "male transsexual".

It would take a hell of a lot of legal unpicking and very likely challenges and rulings under Human Rights Law to change the status quo. Not to say that that route should not be explored as a means of reconciling the problems and loopholes created by the current legal position.

Relaxing the conditions required to obtain a GRC is just going to make things worse as it removes all "gatekeeping", ie. safeguarding.

Get rid of the GRC and not give extra rights to delusional males. Problem solved.