Gender-neutral bathrooms can save women from waiting forever in line

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Not sure if this isn't the Guardian trying to use a different article to achieve the woke arrangements they want.

But primarily the article is saying by going gender neutral woman would get more loo time. ie women should compromise rather than have their needs catered to.

Quote: "With the current most common bathroom design, women wait an average of six minutes to go while men wait just 11 seconds"

www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2019/sep/05/gender-neutral-bathrooms-can-save-women-from-waiting-forever-in-line

Lie #382 subsection 4 in the attempt to get women to just accept men in their single sex spaces already.

At least now we're moving on to the soft sell 'oooh look it's in your interest' batshittery, having given up on pushing the many previous lines that failed.

The straight forward answer to this one: look at the percentage of attacks on women taking place in gender neutral spaces compared to single sex.

So no.

You're welcome to have gender neutral spaces as well for those who prefer not to use the facilities of their (fixed, unchanging, factual) biological sex, but single sex spaces need to stay. And be exclusively for the use of that sex. (still a fact, based on fact and not personal preference.)

Because your right to wave your arms around any way you want ends at someone else's nose. Trying to persuade them that a broken nose is in their best interests so you can crack on doing your thing is frankly insane.

first time I've been in a mixed sex loo and sincerely hope it's the last! The place stank, and there was wee all over the floor of the cubicle and on the seat
Complain, publicly if possible! Twitter or Facebook. Revolting

"With the current most common bathroom design, women wait an average of six minutes to go while men wait just 11 seconds"

I'm not sure I believe this. Where do the numbers come from?

Don't get me wrong, there are times when there are long waits for the ladies, but more often than not when I use a public toilet I just walk in and use a free cubicle.

There is a big difference between queue times during an interval at the theatre and stopping off at the motorway services for example. I just don't see this as 'one solution fits all'.

I was at a service station on the M5 last month. The queue for the ladies was out the door and I waited 10 minutes, alongside a heavily pregnant woman.

No queue for the men's and DH sailed in and out.

Where I live the majority of toilets are gender neutral and when it's busy it's a nightmare for women. Time and time again I've been in a queue of women waiting for the next one to come free when a bloke walks in, straight past the waiting women and takes the one that's become free.

I mean out of the service station door! It was junction 24 North bound.

I was at a service station on the M5 last month. The queue for the ladies was out the door and I waited 10 minutes, alongside a heavily pregnant woman.

I don't think I've ever queued at motorway services in my life, though I am very rarely anywhere near the M5.

Used to play 'find the cubicle that isn't broken, filthy, actually has toilet roll in it' a lot though. Most seem to be greatly improved on that front, except London Gateway on the M1 which is like an 80s throwback. Ugh.

Toilets are already gender neutral, as AFAIK I wee out of my vulva and not out of my Manolos nor my steel-toed Dunlops.

Toilets need to remain sex segregated. I'll take a little wait in exchange for privacy, dignity and safety. Which can be dealt with by providing more toilets for women - 70:30, rather than 50:50.

I'm not sure I believe this. Where do the numbers come from?

Belgium, apparently. You're right, those numbers sound like extremes in particular circumstances not 'averages'.

The only time I can remember queuing at a service station loo was when we arrived just after a coachload of mainly women.

Why are they calling them “bathrooms” ? That is not a word anyone in the UK uses unless they mean a room with a bath in it .

I know this isn't the most important reason for wanting sex-segregation but oh my...the smell. I hate the smell of men's toilets - and unisex ones smell the same. And before anyone says but you share at home - actually I don't. We have a male bathroom and a female bathroom at home too!

Make more women’s loos, et voila, queue time magically cut!

'Mona Chalabi is data editor at Guardian US.'

I think she's British but has adopted the bathroom euphemism.

Make more women’s loos, et voila, queue time magically cut!

Last year we went to the RHS Tatton show. They had those big posh portakabin loos - 3 for women, one for men. I'm guessing the latter didn't have urinals as there was a slight queue for the men's. This was a matter of mild comment in a 'that doesn't happen very often, fair enough' type of way.

At work we have a women's toilet with a few cubicles, and a couple of men's toilets (no idea what they are like, oddly enough), and quite a few shared ones. I have so far not been able to make myself go to the shared ones. I would rather walk to the next building ...

I was visiting another office last week and they had women's toilets, men's toilets, and "other gender" toilets! I saw a man come out of the "other gender" toilet....

...And you didn’t ask!

He was obviously a man. He probably used that because it's less stinky than the gents?

@Ereshkigal

Sorry didn't see earlier thread

I’d rather wait in a queue if it means less perves with spy cameras using the same cubicles.

Bearing in mind my oft told ‘a man once put his head under my cubicle at the swimming pool’ story is an experience I don’t want to repeat, not even in an updated, digital format.