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Vox article on rise of TERFS!

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thegiantgirl · 05/09/2019 15:52

www.vox.com/identities/2019/9/5/20840101/terfs-radical-feminists-gender-critical

Just came across this article on Facebook, Vox page. Aside from being extremely badly written is also a terrible representation of what gender critical means comparing it to being a white supremacist! I can’t formulate a good response right now I’m too angry 😡

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KatvonHostileExtremist · 05/09/2019 18:51

I hate the way Burn's uses "girl" to describe an elderly transwoman.

Biological reality not withstanding.

I doubt Burn's would use "boy" when describing any male over 16.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 05/09/2019 19:02

I remember the joy I felt when, taking my daughter round the gaming exhibition at the V&A, I saw this quote by Burns.
It was, of cause, in section dedicated to the lack of women in game design. And other issues related to women in gaming.

Funny how people like this don't want to slip into the role of a single working mum. The strong link between dysphoria and fictitious characters is really interesting. Nothing is real.

Vox article on rise of TERFS!
Vox article on rise of TERFS!
OrchidInTheSun · 05/09/2019 19:04

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wizbitismynizbit · 05/09/2019 19:11

The comments on Facebook 🙄. I fear for their capacity for thinking.

HappyPunky · 05/09/2019 19:15

I reported a comment that says "terfs can eat glass" got a reply back saying it doesn't go against Facebook community standards so I've replied back asking if eating glass is a positive experience.

CraftyWoman · 05/09/2019 19:52

I was going to say that Vox needs to sort out a fact checker, but then I saw it was written by the odious Katelyn Burns and realised that it would be quicker just to shred the whole article. Burns is a bloody awful writer as well as a liar.

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littlbrowndog · 05/09/2019 20:24

No

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EstherMumsnet · 05/09/2019 20:48

[stern face]

No troll hunting please.

MrsSnippyPants · 05/09/2019 20:58

That is just not true Branleuse and repeating that TRA propaganda on Mumsnet when people are not here to defend themselves is pretty shitty imo.

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 05/09/2019 21:03

To be fair, the article states gender-critical people and right wing doxxers and stalkers are working together.

Yes, it's amazing how hypocritical the article is in complaining about people judging trans people on the actions of a few when it then does exactly the same thing about GC people.

And celebrating the shutting down of MichFest when one of the most prominent campaigners against it then went on to kill a lesbian couple and their son is ever so slightly crass to my mind.

Fraggling · 05/09/2019 21:06

I have no idea who katelyn is tbh

There are a lot of women on here all with different lives opinions experiences etc. It's hardly surprising that lots are not impressed that as a group there is no longer a word to describe us, and the consequences re prisons, sports, places we used to have privacy from men etc

Will read article now.

Ereshkigal · 05/09/2019 21:07

And on this forum everything Katelyn has ever done is dug up and shared, as she is deadnamed, and character assassinated.

Where are these amazingly comprehensive Katelyn Burns threads, I must have missed them? Can you link?

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 05/09/2019 21:17

I've only seen Katelyn from forays into Twitter as part of the TRA crew, and that's more than enough for me.

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AnyOldPrion · 05/09/2019 21:31

I expect Specsavers do a lovely line in rose-tinted spectacles testing.

hipsterfun · 05/09/2019 22:08

I’m not especially feminine but next to KB I’d look like a proper dainty little thing...