Grey rock

[Oncewasblueandyellowtwo]

I notice men or trans idintified men, will rock up on a Friday-Sunday, personally I call it "the fever".
It's so tempting to reply to these males, and I have done, but considering this is a feminist board do you think we should reply to them at all?
Will even one of them listen to any woman here? Should we grey rock? Is there an alternative way to respond to these men?
The incel thread:man talks and looks for affirmation FWR.
Joss Prior is screen grabbing and posting on twitter, all of 1 "like' but hey ho.
How should we deal with the fever?

I agree with you OP, I tend to think grey rock is better technique at dealing with disruptive people. I know a lot of people like to engage with them for the benefit of people reading but I tend to think they want to exhaust us, make us angry, waste our time and stop us from developing our discussions into positive action. So for that reason grey rock is my preferred approach. I prefer to save my energy for people who are decent and have good intentions.

I also think there has been a problem of feminists getting banned from here after being repeatedly wound up deliberately by disruptive people, more so at the weekends, so that's another reason why grey rock might be a good idea.

Interesting first post from a new username.

My advice:

1. If you don’t recognise someone, always do an Advanced Search on their user name before you engage.

1. To do an AS, click the blue arrow to the top right of the screen (I’ll attach as an example).

Sorry, posted too soon (toddler). In short - I agree with you OP, grey rock is best if it’s a new poster and possible GF... and my first line was supposed to be in quotations - that is, where a first post is “interesting” we should always exercise caution.

I really shouldn’t post with a restless toddler here

2BthatUnnoticed
No don't be sorry I didn't know how to do that and now I do.
Tonight I replied to an anti-fascist collective on twitter who are using a te*f blocker l, I don't think a misogynist blocker is the way to go but at the same time the "I'm a man, I'm special" threads are wearing thin.

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Ha sorry yea I'm posting at the exact time of "the fever"
But search my username as 2B told how to do
I have a baby and toddler, I only get a glass of wine on a Friday!

2B I thought the number beside a post was the number of ppl who had responded not the posts the OP had made?

You are quite right OP - that screenshot was just to show the blue icon to press in order to do an AS (see attached, which might have been more helpful!)...

Is that in the mobile version?
In the browser there's a big button labelled Advanced Search. And in the app afaik AS doesn't exist.

U2 I don't understand what an AS means?

Advanced search.

I rarely start threads but do change username every couple of months. So a new name doesn't mean a new person all the time.

Advanced search! OK got it.
I do get that I've posted about my so called "fever" at the exact time!
I have named changed a few months ago because if the golfer incident pm if you want old username.
I just wonder how can I deal with these people without having an alternative blocker?And the fact that an Anti fascist group have a te*f blocker and don't see the irony in using a tool that's used for the oppression of women.

I think it's pretty sad that someone would want to waste their time goading and screenshotting on MN. What's the point? Agree grey rock is the way to go though.

doyoumindbut the TRAs do take screen shots from here and they use a tef blocker. Even the Anti Fascist London are using a tef blocker.
I'm just wondering and asking how I, or we, can combat this?
They come here and make posts but terfs are blocked from their social media.

I say let them crack on with it - it shows them for who they are.

Generally, the ones who show up here are mtf - so men popping over and trying to control women...again.

Shows their male socialisation at play and proves that there's no such thing as 'feeling like a woman' because it's pure male behaviour, attempting to dominate and control women.

For making this a more feminist friendly place my ideas are:

1. Anyone shown to be repeatedly derailing and filibustering threads (where filibustering means to endlessly talk nonsense to fill up the thread hijacking it and making it difficult for genuine posters to participate in) should be given a certain amount of warning then banned if they continue to do this.

1. A block/mute button which could be used for the really tiresome disruptors. By not being able to filter them out we are constantly forced to encounter them when they are not here in good faith.

1. Consistent moderating and clear explanation of what rule was broken if we get a post removed. I notice the moderating at the weekend is different. I had a post removed one weekend and I still have no idea why because I thought it was a straight forward thing to write and was the kind of thing I'd been writing all week with no problem.

I'm a feminist and I'd like to participate more here but the way disruptors are continuously allowed to derail and filibuster threads combined with the strict rules for feminists isn't great for allowing genuine, interesting discussion on what is meant is to be a feminist board. I do however appreciate this place and Mumsnet's support for feminists so these are just a few ideas for how, in my view anyway, it could be improved.

2. A block/mute button which could be used for the really tiresome disruptors. By not being able to filter them out we are constantly forced to encounter them when they are not here in good faith.

I've never wanted this site-wide but I think it would be perfect for the FWR board as it is so constantly attacked and invaded by people not posting good faith and genuinely looking to cause disruption. I think that's a great idea.

I quite like playing with my food. But happy to grey rock if it’s more effective.

As a mostly lurker, I see no need for regulars to spend their time replying to GFs for my benefit. It just clogs up the board with culture war stuff instead of the feminist issues we can actually do something about. Just grey rock is better than the whole board becoming fight club.