Insightful twitter thread from detransitioner

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twitter.com/charlie_sci/status/1165369008801091589?s=21

Really interesting read and I hope more and more people follow Charlie’s lead or at least realise that opposing the ideology doesn’t equal hatred or phobia.

Also on the subject of twitter threads, is there any limit to how misogynistic this loser can be?

twitter.com/sally_hines/status/1165393996086222848?s=21

Sally, I am a LOT younger than you, objectively speaking considerably ‘prettier’ than you, and yet I STILL think you are a thick, misogynistic arse. How do you explain that then?

Argh sorry about that

Charlie’s thread:

twitter.com/charlie_sci/status/1165369008801091589?s=21

Sally’s thread:

twitter.com/sally_hines/status/1165393996086222848?s=21

That is a really interesting read, yes.

Sally Hines just comes across as vacuous. How can you not seriously engage with what the protesters are saying?

For many years, I say gender as a way of describing the ways in which society constituted men and women through norms of masculinity and femininity. I did not see it as who people actually were. I did see it as overriding or erasing women’s studies and as therefore politically part of the backlash to second wave feminism. But I also saw the arguments that masculinity is heirarchical and worthy of study/deconstructing. Hence I would say my relationship to gender as a category of analysis was ambivalent- but the point is that I saw it as a theoretical category, not a way of being.

I think the point that gender as a way of being harms people is really important. I really struggle with the idea that saying this is controversial. It is effectively forcing people to match social norms and/or define themselves in terms of social norms. It is not even that ‘othering’ them is dangerous, it is that ‘normalising’ them is dangerous (if that makes sense).

*I saw gender

Thanks for the links. You have now forced me to spend well over an hour on Twitter

Sorry Prawn!

KTara yes, I totally agree. This movement that people like Sally Hines promotes is reinforcing the idea that gender is natural and innate and that people have a sense of being male or female that isn’t connected to social constructs. I am just so baffled that so many apparently critical thinkers now go along with this idiocy and somehow see it as progressive. It’s so far from progressive that it’s laughable.

Ah sorry I don't see your thread before I started this one so just linking:

I have a retraction to make. Last year I tweeted this in response to #GetTheLOut in London. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3674531-i-have-a-retraction-to-make-last-year-i-tweeted-this-in-response-to-getthelout-in-london

No comment. I've seen a picture of Stacey though... the words glasshouses and stones spring to mind. I think it's very illustrative of a certain type of MTF person's mindset:

https://twitter.com/StaceyFurUK/status/1165398215958683648?s=20

Doesn’t surprise me. I have looked at Stacey’s tweets in which Stacey often refers to themselves as a ‘girl’. The bio suggests this is a middle aged male person. The cognitive dissonance is extreme, as is the blatant misogyny.